Re: speakup disks needed

Re: speakup disks needed

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Jude,

Yeah; DSL is even less secure than dial-up, especially with a static IP 
address.  But, if your system is solid, and you keep all the doors closed 
you want, you should be relatively safe.

The RedHat boot disks are available on the linux-speakup.org FTP site, but 
they don't work, at least the RH 7.2 boot image does not seem to work for 
the Accent PC.

Regards.

At 07:36 PM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm rather certain I lost the patched red hat 7.0 kernel file for speakup.
>Right now, I have red hat 7.0 somewhat verbal on my computer with
>doubletalk synthesier.  I just got in the mail red hat 7.2 boxed set so
>I'm also going to need an updated boot disk and the kernel patch file for
>doubletalk and red hat 7.2 so I can do the upgrade.  I've been under the
>radar for quite a while since my linux system that was on a dial up
>account got hacked.  linsniffer was put onto my computer since one of the
>server doors was open that oughtn't have been for single home users and
>the hacker got in that way.  That sniffer has a web page at
>http://www.attrition.org.  I don't know that dsl will be anymore secure,
>but I got me a modem and an account with verizon so am going to find out.
>The speakup mirror disk link for red hat 6.2 7.0 and 7.2 so far as I can
>tell is broken and generates an error 404 so I'm wondering if these files
>are available on the internet now.  Last I heard Bill Hacker's ftp site
>was shut down so ftp.octothorp.org isn't an option now.
>
>
>Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
>
>
>
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Re: speakup disks needed

[Janina Sajka]

Darrell:

What happens with the modified RH boot disks and the Accent? 
Specifically, can you describe the process and what happens?

Let me say that I have installed several systems for several people using
a variety of speech synths both in the U.S. and in the U.K. in the past
two weeks using precisely these boot disks without a hitch.

As for the exposure to hacking, the Redhat installation includes the
configuration of a firewall. If you pay attention in that part of the
process you can, among other options, fully lock the machine down against
any incoming traffic. If you're not careful, though, you can leave one
interface fully open while locking down another. To that end, it is
important to read and understand the Redhat installation help messages
and/or the installation manual available for online reading or for
download at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/. 

Bill's site is no longer the preferred place for downloading either the 
Redhat kernel RPMS or the full Redhat iso images which Bill modifies with 
speakup. This is a good thing because Bill's net connection was getting 
overloaded from all the interest in these files. They are now available on 
the speakup site, which has a much larger pipe to the net, via anonymous 
ftp at 
www.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/redhat/7.2/. They are definitely 
there--I just checked. But use ftp and not http, as the revamped web pages 
are still not quite correct on the speakup site.

 On Thu, 6 Dec 
2001, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Jude,
> 
> Yeah; DSL is even less secure than dial-up, especially with a static IP 
> address.  But, if your system is solid, and you keep all the doors closed 
> you want, you should be relatively safe.
> 
> The RedHat boot disks are available on the linux-speakup.org FTP site, but 
> they don't work, at least the RH 7.2 boot image does not seem to work for 
> the Accent PC.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> At 07:36 PM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >I'm rather certain I lost the patched red hat 7.0 kernel file for speakup.
> >Right now, I have red hat 7.0 somewhat verbal on my computer with
> >doubletalk synthesier.  I just got in the mail red hat 7.2 boxed set so
> >I'm also going to need an updated boot disk and the kernel patch file for
> >doubletalk and red hat 7.2 so I can do the upgrade.  I've been under the
> >radar for quite a while since my linux system that was on a dial up
> >account got hacked.  linsniffer was put onto my computer since one of the
> >server doors was open that oughtn't have been for single home users and
> >the hacker got in that way.  That sniffer has a web page at
> >http://www.attrition.org.  I don't know that dsl will be anymore secure,
> >but I got me a modem and an account with verizon so am going to find out.
> >The speakup mirror disk link for red hat 6.2 7.0 and 7.2 so far as I can
> >tell is broken and generates an error 404 so I'm wondering if these files
> >are available on the internet now.  Last I heard Bill Hacker's ftp site
> >was shut down so ftp.octothorp.org isn't an option now.
> >
> >
> >Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
> >
> >
> >
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> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> 
> 
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
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http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp

Re: speakup disks needed

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Janina,

I understand about the possibilities of creating a firewall with RedHat or
nay other Linux, and of locking things down.  It just all depends on what
you are planning to do with your Linux box.  I tend to use them for
servers, so I don't want to lock it completely down...  :-)

OK; here's what I did.  I downloaded the boot.img file from the
redhat/7.2 directory of the linux-speakup.org FTP site.  I just downloaded
the boot.img, not the RedHat ISO files, since I had already burned a set
of RedHat 7.2 CDs.  Did Bill actually modify the contents of the RedHat
distro itself?  Do I need those ISO files in order for this to work
correctly?

OK, once I dwonloaded the boot.img file, I used the following dd command
to create a boot floppy:

dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k

This seemed to work; I observed no errors.

On the target machine, I inserted the newly created boot disk and the
first RedHat 7.2 CD, and rebooted the machine.  The machine booted from
the floppy; I have no idea what was on the screen...  :-)  At this point,
I typed the following to install using the Accent PC speech ysnthesizer:

text speakup_synth=acntpc

After pressing enter, I heard some disk activity which eventually stopped,
but never any speech...  :-)

Do you have nay good ideas?

Thanks.

 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Darrell:
>
> What happens with the modified RH boot disks and the Accent?
> Specifically, can you describe the process and what happens?
>
> Let me say that I have installed several systems for several people using
> a variety of speech synths both in the U.S. and in the U.K. in the past
> two weeks using precisely these boot disks without a hitch.
>
> As for the exposure to hacking, the Redhat installation includes the
> configuration of a firewall. If you pay attention in that part of the
> process you can, among other options, fully lock the machine down against
> any incoming traffic. If you're not careful, though, you can leave one
> interface fully open while locking down another. To that end, it is
> important to read and understand the Redhat installation help messages
> and/or the installation manual available for online reading or for
> download at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/.
>
> Bill's site is no longer the preferred place for downloading either the
> Redhat kernel RPMS or the full Redhat iso images which Bill modifies with
> speakup. This is a good thing because Bill's net connection was getting
> overloaded from all the interest in these files. They are now available on
> the speakup site, which has a much larger pipe to the net, via anonymous
> ftp at
> www.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/redhat/7.2/. They are definitely
> there--I just checked. But use ftp and not http, as the revamped web pages
> are still not quite correct on the speakup site.
>
>  On Thu, 6 Dec
> 2001, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>
> > Hi Jude,
> >
> > Yeah; DSL is even less secure than dial-up, especially with a static IP
> > address.  But, if your system is solid, and you keep all the doors closed
> > you want, you should be relatively safe.
> >
> > The RedHat boot disks are available on the linux-speakup.org FTP site, but
> > they don't work, at least the RH 7.2 boot image does not seem to work for
> > the Accent PC.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > At 07:36 PM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I'm rather certain I lost the patched red hat 7.0 kernel file for speakup.
> > >Right now, I have red hat 7.0 somewhat verbal on my computer with
> > >doubletalk synthesier.  I just got in the mail red hat 7.2 boxed set so
> > >I'm also going to need an updated boot disk and the kernel patch file for
> > >doubletalk and red hat 7.2 so I can do the upgrade.  I've been under the
> > >radar for quite a while since my linux system that was on a dial up
> > >account got hacked.  linsniffer was put onto my computer since one of the
> > >server doors was open that oughtn't have been for single home users and
> > >the hacker got in that way.  That sniffer has a web page at
> > >http://www.attrition.org.  I don't know that dsl will be anymore secure,
> > >but I got me a modem and an account with verizon so am going to find out.
> > >The speakup mirror disk link for red hat 6.2 7.0 and 7.2 so far as I can
> > >tell is broken and generates an error 404 so I'm wondering if these files
> > >are available on the internet now.  Last I heard Bill Hacker's ftp site
> > >was shut down so ftp.octothorp.org isn't an option now.
> > >
> > >
> > >Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Blinux-list mailing list
> > >Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> >
> >
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> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
>
>

Re: speakup disks needed

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Darrell:

I certainly understand that running a server means opening it up to 
various connections. That's clearly what a server is. I think I said that 
bit about firewalling mainly because you were answering Jude who had had a 
breakin. I just thought it important to point out that firewalling is 
rather nicely supported in the Redhat installation scripts. After RH is 
installed, only a gui interface is available to expedite reconfiguring the 
firewall, so it is really important to do it right in the installation 
process, because, thereafter, it becomes a matter of tweaking 
configuration files. 

In any case, about the accent and speakup:

Yes, Bill does modify the files on the iso images. Check the 
README.speakup to see exactly what, but it's the kernel which is 
eventually installed to your hd, the anaconda install scripts, and the 
keyboard maps, as I recall. All of that's important. Why not rsync against 
what you already have, if you have room on an hd partition for an iso 
image set. I usually install from a partition on hd, in part for this 
reason.

As for the boot floppy, it sounds as though you created it correctly. What 
may have happened is that you may have waited too long to type in the text 
speakup_synth=acntpc part. It needs to happen right after bios 
initialization is complete--the point when most systems beep.

There's a way to be sure, though. Take that floppy and edit the 
syslinux.cfg file. It's a plain text file. It should become very evident 
what you can do. Make the default "text," add the "speakup_synth=acntpc" 
to the beginning of the append statement (I do believe it's important for 
it to go first for some reason), and, for the heck of it, put

serial=0,9600N8

right above the various kernels. Yes, this file is just like a lilo.conf 
file.

This should definitely say boot, at the very least. It should also come up 
talking after the floppy grinds for awhile, and you won't have to type 
anything during the boot process.

PS: I'm quite sure the Accent is properly supported by speakup because one 
of the longtime stallwarts in the speakup group is an Accent user.

PSS: You want Bill's kernels in your installation images because you want 
to end up with a kernel installed to your hard disk that has speakup in 
it. You want Bill's additions of the keymap and anaconda scripts, because 
you want to be able to select the "speakup" keymap, and not the U.S. 
keymap, in order to have screen review during the install, and by default 
afterwards.

Good luck, and please let me know. I'll be offline Saturday (quick, 
one-day trip to see my mom), but will be back online Sunday.
 On Fri, 7 Dec 
2001, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Janina,
> 
> I understand about the possibilities of creating a firewall with RedHat or
> nay other Linux, and of locking things down.  It just all depends on what
> you are planning to do with your Linux box.  I tend to use them for
> servers, so I don't want to lock it completely down...  :-)
> 
> OK; here's what I did.  I downloaded the boot.img file from the
> redhat/7.2 directory of the linux-speakup.org FTP site.  I just downloaded
> the boot.img, not the RedHat ISO files, since I had already burned a set
> of RedHat 7.2 CDs.  Did Bill actually modify the contents of the RedHat
> distro itself?  Do I need those ISO files in order for this to work
> correctly?
> 
> OK, once I dwonloaded the boot.img file, I used the following dd command
> to create a boot floppy:
> 
> dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k
> 
> This seemed to work; I observed no errors.
> 
> On the target machine, I inserted the newly created boot disk and the
> first RedHat 7.2 CD, and rebooted the machine.  The machine booted from
> the floppy; I have no idea what was on the screen...  :-)  At this point,
> I typed the following to install using the Accent PC speech ysnthesizer:
> 
> text speakup_synth=acntpc
> 
> After pressing enter, I heard some disk activity which eventually stopped,
> but never any speech...  :-)
> 
> Do you have nay good ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> > Darrell:
> >
> > What happens with the modified RH boot disks and the Accent?
> > Specifically, can you describe the process and what happens?
> >
> > Let me say that I have installed several systems for several people using
> > a variety of speech synths both in the U.S. and in the U.K. in the past
> > two weeks using precisely these boot disks without a hitch.
> >
> > As for the exposure to hacking, the Redhat installation includes the
> > configuration of a firewall. If you pay attention in that part of the
> > process you can, among other options, fully lock the machine down against
> > any incoming traffic. If you're not careful, though, you can leave one
> > interface fully open while locking down another. To that end, it is
> > important to read and understand the Redhat installation help messages
> > and/or the installation manual available for online reading or for
> > download at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/.
> >
> > Bill's site is no longer the preferred place for downloading either the
> > Redhat kernel RPMS or the full Redhat iso images which Bill modifies with
> > speakup. This is a good thing because Bill's net connection was getting
> > overloaded from all the interest in these files. They are now available on
> > the speakup site, which has a much larger pipe to the net, via anonymous
> > ftp at
> > www.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/redhat/7.2/. They are definitely
> > there--I just checked. But use ftp and not http, as the revamped web pages
> > are still not quite correct on the speakup site.
> >
> >  On Thu, 6 Dec
> > 2001, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jude,
> > >
> > > Yeah; DSL is even less secure than dial-up, especially with a static IP
> > > address.  But, if your system is solid, and you keep all the doors closed
> > > you want, you should be relatively safe.
> > >
> > > The RedHat boot disks are available on the linux-speakup.org FTP site, but
> > > they don't work, at least the RH 7.2 boot image does not seem to work for
> > > the Accent PC.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > At 07:36 PM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >I'm rather certain I lost the patched red hat 7.0 kernel file for speakup.
> > > >Right now, I have red hat 7.0 somewhat verbal on my computer with
> > > >doubletalk synthesier.  I just got in the mail red hat 7.2 boxed set so
> > > >I'm also going to need an updated boot disk and the kernel patch file for
> > > >doubletalk and red hat 7.2 so I can do the upgrade.  I've been under the
> > > >radar for quite a while since my linux system that was on a dial up
> > > >account got hacked.  linsniffer was put onto my computer since one of the
> > > >server doors was open that oughtn't have been for single home users and
> > > >the hacker got in that way.  That sniffer has a web page at
> > > >http://www.attrition.org.  I don't know that dsl will be anymore secure,
> > > >but I got me a modem and an account with verizon so am going to find out.
> > > >The speakup mirror disk link for red hat 6.2 7.0 and 7.2 so far as I can
> > > >tell is broken and generates an error 404 so I'm wondering if these files
> > > >are available on the internet now.  Last I heard Bill Hacker's ftp site
> > > >was shut down so ftp.octothorp.org isn't an option now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >Blinux-list mailing list
> > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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> 
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

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King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
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Re: speakup disks needed

[Tommy Moore]

Hhe, wrong there.
You can go in to the firewall config tool after the install.
Just run /sbin/setup and go down to firewall configuration.
Just a thought.

Tommy

setting adsl

[Pawel Loba]

Hi:
With RH-71 you needed to run adsl-setup to configure your pppoe 
configuration. What about RH-7.2? I couldn't find this utility on my 
system, there are adsl-start, adsl-stop etc. but there is no adsl-setup 
anymore. I would appreciate any sugestion in this matter.

Thanks, Pawel.

Re: speakup disks needed

[Janina Sajka]

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:

> Hhe, wrong there.
> You can go in to the firewall config tool after the install.
> Just run /sbin/setup and go down to firewall configuration.

Ummm, it's actually /usr/sbin/setup on my system. 

But, thanks. Somehow, I had not learned this one. Very nice.

> Just a thought.
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp

Re: speakup disks needed

[Pawel Loba]

Hi Janina and all:
Or you can simple use 'lokkit' will bring to the same utility.

Thanks, Pawel.
On Sun, 9 
Dec 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:
> 
> > Hhe, wrong there.
> > You can go in to the firewall config tool after the install.
> > Just run /sbin/setup and go down to firewall configuration.
> 
> Ummm, it's actually /usr/sbin/setup on my system. 
> 
> But, thanks. Somehow, I had not learned this one. Very nice.
> 
> > Just a thought.
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: speakup disks needed

[Jude DaShiell]

Hi Daryl, verizon does not use static ip addresses, it's all dynamically
assigned ip addresses.  Even so, thanks for the warning.  I had closed
lots of doors in setup then tried getting out on the internet.  My zoom
modem only produced static when I tried with it and my dsl modem kept on
getting timeouts so I completely reinstalled linux so it's out of box
settings then I'll experiment with closing doors once the dsl is working
and see which door breaks it.

Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>