From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B28F3EC3B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADLNqp18681 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:52 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADLNpF25634 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:51 -0500 Received: from toccata.grg.afb.net (dsl092-170-083.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.170.83]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADLNpw25629 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.grg.afb.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fADLNmb06676 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.grg.afb.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out In-Reply-To: <001001c16c80$b5839e00$0100000a@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tommy, wait a minute here, computers cost less today across the board. If we believe what you say, that we get what we pay for, then they should be poorer computers, not more powerful ones. This just isn't the case. So, why are computer prices coming down everywhere except assistive technology, where they're going up? I understand about refreshable braille displays. I don't understand at all about the rest of it. The Papenmeier/Alva web page points out that much linux software is free or low cost. So, are you guys packaging free software and charging more for it? Please, this price needs an honest explanation. On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: > Well, I guess I would say that no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. > There is always the good old Braille N Speak. BTW, the price of the BNS > started out at under a thousand dollars. It didn't stay that way for long. I > definately would like lower prices both as a blind person and as a > salesperson but unfortunately you usually get what you pay for. Papenmeier > has a long time reputation for quality. I have owned and used several of > their displays and I can personally vouch for their reliability. Also I am a > firm believer that Braille allows a blind person to be more productive. That > is a very important factor if an employer is purchasing technology for you. > Unfortunately most blind people who are not working can't afford to purchase > their own equipment, even if the price does drop below a thousand dollars. > The main reason for the high cost in all of these products is the small > market. If Toshiba only sold a couple of thousand laptops the price would be > in the tens of thousands of dollars. > Tommy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp