From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA973EFC1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fADJSnp21612 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:49 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fADJSnR09489 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:49 -0500 Received: from toccata.grg.afb.net (dsl092-170-083.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.170.83]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fADJSnw09485 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (janina@localhost) by toccata.grg.afb.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fADJSgx06468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: toccata.grg.afb.net: janina owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: Janina Sajka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out In-Reply-To: <000901c16c6f$10c37860$0100000a@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: True, but that's all the more reason for a speech only version. Why force people to take the form factor plus the braille, when they can't afford the price? I know braille is the only medium most European blind folk care about, but I'm asking from the U.S. perspective. Now, my second point -- What about the included speech? Is it truely UXDOTS? If so, why? Speakup is free, and UXDOTS isn't. So, what's the advantage to the user? On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: > Well I suppose the same way that every Braille display manufacturer does. > Braille cost a lot to make. Your response makes it sound as if the ELBA is > tremendously more expensive than the BrailleNote or the BrailleLite. It > isn't. I think the price is very competitive, especially since it offers a > lot more than either one of the other devices. > Tommy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp