From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35B82EFBF for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f89HOWL18472 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:24:32 -0400 Received: from fep01-app.kolumbus.fi (fep01-0.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.41]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f89HOVg18468 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:24:32 -0400 Received: from thp.local ([193.229.25.216]) by fep01-app.kolumbus.fi (InterMail vM.5.01.03.08 201-253-122-118-108-20010628) with SMTP id <20010909172430.GBFT11276.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@thp.local> for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:24:30 +0300 Received: (qmail 12916 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2001 17:24:29 -0000 Received: from nkl.local (qmailr@192.168.2.4) by gw.local with SMTP; 9 Sep 2001 17:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23948 invoked by uid 1013); 9 Sep 2001 17:24:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2001 17:24:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:24:26 +0300 (EEST) From: Ari Moisio X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net In-Reply-To: <002e01c1380a$9aac5c20$0f4949cf@oemcomputer> Message-ID: X-PGP-KeyID: 0x3FAF0F05 X-PGP-Key-fingerprint: 8A 91 96 E2 98 64 D0 4D 57 5E 3E EE 72 E9 DD D2 X-Greetings-To-NSA: Greenpeace bomb Bush Amnesty crack cocaine terror ira iran iraq libya contra MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Reply-To: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! Jared 07.09.01: >If the command line is so grate write me or help write me a mass market >application that cells to millions of coppies. You can't because you can't Well, make it a html-based application:-> Everybody can choose the most suitable UI. >use the g u i interface in linux like you can in windows. So you will have To be exact: you don't have to use gui in Linux:-> >to write in general smaller market programs if you wish to do that for a >job. I on the other hand because I'm not thick headed can write G U I >applications with vb or any number of other tools. As for your comment to I have so far believed that because my sighted colleagues don't have to mess with rewiew modes, guess bitmaps and remember what alt-leftcontrol-mother-in-law-space did at this mode but now i know what is my actual problem. Thanks. Seriously talking: text-based (or cli if you prefer so) apps are much easier for screen reader. I have almost same information about screen contents than my sighted colleagues. In addition i have similar user interface to enter commands; the keyboard. If you can get job in gui environment thats fine. But i personally cannot compete with sighted colleagues. i'm glad i started to explore Linux and networks at '95 instead of investing $3k into new computer (would be obsolete now), os (obsolete now) and screen reader (very obsolete now). -- Mr. Ari Moisio, Niittykatu 7, 41160 Tikkakoski, +358-40-5055239 ari.moisio@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/arimo PGP-keyID: 0x3FAF0F05