From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7B62FCEB for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f881fnp30581 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:41:49 -0400 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (IDENT:root@ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f881fng30577 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:41:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (jdashiel@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17781 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:41:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:41:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jude DaShiell To: Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net In-Reply-To: <20010908013329.A33158@stalin.acc.umu.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: When a computer language is written so that it's possible for stupid programmers to generate garbage with it and call that finished product the inventors of the language in my book take full responsibility for having enabled the garbage. html on its face before netscape and microsoft came in and added their innovations was lots more accessible just using lynx than most of the world-wide wait is today. Jude On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Peter Toneby wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:36:26PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > The three companies primarily responsible for inaccessibility are sun > > microsystems for having invented java in the first place. Second netscape > > for having innovated html and java. Third Microsoft for having innovated > > everything else. > > *beeep* > Now this is pretty much plain wrong!!!! > Java, in and on itself, is not inaccessible, it's stupid programmers > that write stupid java-applets,. That should never have been possible. > HTML is not netscapes fault, it w3c's, and netscape hasn't touched Java > very much, IE and Netscape had java-support at the same time. And > Microsoft haven't innovated shit. they have moslty bought their > "innovations" and Windows is alot more accesible than linux when it > comes to apps, In Linux you can't just start jaws and then pretty much > any other app without problems, try and do that on linux with X (say to > do something thee are no fileformat->text-app, You will fail miserably, > but luckily this is seldom the case for most of you. And you can happily > use Linux in console instead of X. > > oh, well time to stop rantin and start sleeping... > > /Peter > -- > Alpha Test Version: Too buggy to be released to the paying public. > Beta Test Version: Still too buggy to be released. > Release Version: Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version". > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >