* Braille Lite Settings for brltty @ John J. Boyer ` Nicolas Pitre 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: John J. Boyer @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hello, Any Braille Lite 40 and brltty user, please tell me if it is necessary to do anything except set the Braille Lite 40 to speech box mode with dots 345-chord and p-chord. That is all that is necessary for Jaws, but maybe brltty is more sensitive. Thanks. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty Braille Lite Settings for brltty John J. Boyer @ ` Nicolas Pitre ` Dave Mielke ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Pitre @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > Hello, > Any Braille Lite 40 and brltty user, please tell me if it is necessary to do > anything except set the Braille Lite 40 to speech box mode with dots > 345-chord and p-chord. That is all that is necessary for Jaws, but maybe > brltty is more sensitive. You shouldn't need anything else. However, it might be a possibility that your serial cable is flaky and picking up interferences. You could try lowering the baudrate in BrailleLite/brlconf.h to something like B4800 and match that setting on your device, even if the default 9600 bauds should be quite safely low already. Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Nicolas Pitre @ ` Dave Mielke ` Nicolas Pitre ` Brent Harding 2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Dave Mielke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on November 19, 2001, at 12:33] Hi: >You could try >lowering the baudrate in BrailleLite/brlconf.h to something like B4800 and >match that setting on your device, even if the default 9600 bauds should be >quite safely low already. Users of the latest BRLTTY (2.99y), which is now downloadable, the BrailleLite baudrate can now be specified on the command line. Do it lke this: -Bbaudrate=4800 or --braille-parameters=baudrate=4800 -- Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | I believe that the Bible is the Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | Word of God. Please contact me EMail: dave@mielke.cc | Canada K2A 1H7 | if you're concerned about Hell. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Nicolas Pitre ` Dave Mielke @ ` Nicolas Pitre ` John J. Boyer ` Brent Harding 2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Pitre @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > > > Hello, > > Any Braille Lite 40 and brltty user, please tell me if it is necessary to do > > anything except set the Braille Lite 40 to speech box mode with dots > > 345-chord and p-chord. That is all that is necessary for Jaws, but maybe > > brltty is more sensitive. > > You shouldn't need anything else. However, it might be a possibility that > your serial cable is flaky and picking up interferences. You could try > lowering the baudrate in BrailleLite/brlconf.h to something like B4800 and > match that setting on your device, even if the default 9600 bauds should be > quite safely low already. Oh, and in addition to kudzu you might try turning off gpm as well, just in case it was configured to expect a mouse on your BrailleLite serial port. Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Nicolas Pitre @ ` John J. Boyer ` Dave Mielke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: John J. Boyer @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Nicolas, What's gpm (Gnu Peripheral Manager?) Do I turn it off with chkconfig gpm off Thanks. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:44 Subject: Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > Any Braille Lite 40 and brltty user, please tell me if it is necessary to do > > > anything except set the Braille Lite 40 to speech box mode with dots > > > 345-chord and p-chord. That is all that is necessary for Jaws, but maybe > > > brltty is more sensitive. > > > > You shouldn't need anything else. However, it might be a possibility that > > your serial cable is flaky and picking up interferences. You could try > > lowering the baudrate in BrailleLite/brlconf.h to something like B4800 and > > match that setting on your device, even if the default 9600 bauds should be > > quite safely low already. > > Oh, and in addition to kudzu you might try turning off gpm as well, just in > case it was configured to expect a mouse on your BrailleLite serial port. > > > Nicolas > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` John J. Boyer @ ` Dave Mielke 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Dave Mielke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list [quoted lines by John J. Boyer on November 19, 2001, at 12:34] >What's gpm A background process which provides mouse support for text consoles. >Do I turn it off with >chkconfig gpm off Yes. You can see which device it's attempting to use by doing "ls -l /dev/mouse". It'll likely be either a symbolic link to a serial port (ttySn) or a symbolic link to "psaux". The former, especially if the device name matches, is an indication of a conflict, whereas the latter should be okay. -- Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | I believe that the Bible is the Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | Word of God. Please contact me EMail: dave@mielke.cc | Canada K2A 1H7 | if you're concerned about Hell. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Nicolas Pitre ` Dave Mielke ` Nicolas Pitre @ ` Brent Harding ` Nicolas Pitre 2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Brent Harding @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Speech box mode isn't what you use I don't think. That's for a braille lite to be used as a synthesizer to the computer. You'd use a dropped J cord, 3-5-6 and S to get braille display going on the serial port. At 12:33 PM 11/19/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > >> Hello, >> Any Braille Lite 40 and brltty user, please tell me if it is necessary to do >> anything except set the Braille Lite 40 to speech box mode with dots >> 345-chord and p-chord. That is all that is necessary for Jaws, but maybe >> brltty is more sensitive. > >You shouldn't need anything else. However, it might be a possibility that >your serial cable is flaky and picking up interferences. You could try >lowering the baudrate in BrailleLite/brlconf.h to something like B4800 and >match that setting on your device, even if the default 9600 bauds should be >quite safely low already. > > >Nicolas > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Brent Harding @ ` Nicolas Pitre ` John J. Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Pitre @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > Speech box mode isn't what you use I don't think. That's for a braille lite > to be used as a synthesizer to the computer. It is the same mode that allows it to be used as a braille terminal as well. Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Nicolas Pitre @ ` John J. Boyer ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: John J. Boyer @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hello, Well I tried turning gpm off and rebooting. No effect. When I did ls -l /dev/mouse before turning gpm off I got a message saying that the file could not be found. Thanks to everyone for their help. We'll get this thing licked eventually. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:26 Subject: Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > Speech box mode isn't what you use I don't think. That's for a braille lite > > to be used as a synthesizer to the computer. > > It is the same mode that allows it to be used as a braille terminal as well. > > > Nicolas > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` John J. Boyer @ ` Janina Sajka ` John J. Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list John: Just catching up on email so don't know if anyone's told you yet, but ... You don't need to reboot to have a change take effect in linux--usually. In fact, you rarely need to reboot at all. In this particular case (with Redhat), you can stop the running mouse service by doing: service gpm stop Of course, you can also start it with: service gpm start And, if you make new settings and just want them to take effect, you do: service gpm restart Works well for all kinds of services. See /etc/services. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > Hello, > Well I tried turning gpm off and rebooting. No effect. When I did > ls -l /dev/mouse > before turning gpm off I got a message saying that the file could not be > found. > Thanks to everyone for their help. We'll get this thing licked eventually. > John > > Computers to Help People, Inc. > http://www.chpi.org > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org> > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:26 > Subject: Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > > > Speech box mode isn't what you use I don't think. That's for a braille > lite > > > to be used as a synthesizer to the computer. > > > > It is the same mode that allows it to be used as a braille terminal as > well. > > > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty ` Janina Sajka @ ` John J. Boyer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: John J. Boyer @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Janina, Thanks for the tips. I'm still used to Windows, which can begin to behave like a lunatic if it isn't rebooted every day. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 20:42 Subject: Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty > John: > > Just catching up on email so don't know if anyone's told you yet, but ... > > You don't need to reboot to have a change take effect in linux--usually. > In fact, you rarely need to reboot at all. > > In this particular case (with Redhat), you can stop the running mouse > service by doing: > > service gpm stop > > Of course, you can also start it with: > > service gpm start > > And, if you make new settings and just want them to take effect, you do: > > service gpm restart > > Works well for all kinds of services. See /etc/services. > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, John J. Boyer wrote: > > > Hello, > > Well I tried turning gpm off and rebooting. No effect. When I did > > ls -l /dev/mouse > > before turning gpm off I got a message saying that the file could not be > > found. > > Thanks to everyone for their help. We'll get this thing licked eventually. > > John > > > > Computers to Help People, Inc. > > http://www.chpi.org > > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org> > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:26 > > Subject: Re: Braille Lite Settings for brltty > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > > > > > Speech box mode isn't what you use I don't think. That's for a braille > > lite > > > > to be used as a synthesizer to the computer. > > > > > > It is the same mode that allows it to be used as a braille terminal as > > well. > > > > > > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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