* Re: UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site
UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site michael malver
@ ` brian
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` AARON HOWELL
` UltraSonix scope and screen-reader issues (was: Re: UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site) Nikhil Nair
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From: brian @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: malv0002; +Cc: blinux-list
Hello Michael,
> pardon my ignorance. I am glad to see that we can use x-windows,
> but will this program also support standard unix shells such as bash, or
> tcsh?
Absolutely! Running a shell in a X-terminal is peanuts
compared to many more complicated applications. UltraSonix is not written
with any particular application in mind. You want shells? We got shells!
> Also, are there plans to support other synthesizers? I use a
> keynnote gold internal. I am pretty sure humanware would give the
> documentation out to a programmer willing to attempt the task.
Absolutely again. The more, the merrier! UltraSonix has
a good interface so as to make the addition of other devices
reasonably straightforward.
> also, I have heard work of trying to make a talking shell for the
> blind. This bothers me. I like bas, other may like tcsh, ksh, or whatever.
> Why can't a screen reader be written that is independent of the shell?
There is, of course, Emacspeak, which does much more
than just run shells. Emacspeak doesn't care which shell you run, and it speaks
quite nicely.
> Sorry if this is off-topic.
Your questions are directly *on topic*.
> Michael
Brian.
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UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site michael malver
` brian
@ ` AARON HOWELL
` UltraSonix scope and screen-reader issues (was: Re: UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site) Nikhil Nair
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From: AARON HOWELL @ UTC (permalink / raw)
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Um. whats with the supposed port of UltraSonix to linux? the source on
ftp.leb.net looks remarkably like the original source released by The
University of Georgia. It certainly doesn't build under linux, and typing
make depend reveals an awful lot of sunos dependancies. I thought it was a
little too quick to be true.
People, I suggest you don't waste your time with downloading this one
unless you want to port it to linux yourself.
Oh and with regards to support of the keynote gold internal, Humanware are
distributors in the U.S, the people to contact for programming information
are Pulse Data PTY LTD in New Zealand,
http://www.pulsedata.co.nz The email address is on the web site.
Last time i checked you still had to sign a non-disclosure agreement to
get the specs, though this may have changed due to the fact that almost
noone was supporting keynote hardware due to the difficulty in getting
programming specs for it. (smells suspiciously like creative labs/diamond
technologies to me).
Anyway, if someone is working on a linux port for UltraSonix, that would
be cool, and be sure to let us know what happens with it.
Regards
Aaron
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UltraSonix screen-reader for X-windows available at BLINUX site michael malver
` brian
` AARON HOWELL
@ ` Nikhil Nair
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From: Nikhil Nair @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: michael malver; +Cc: blinux-list
On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, michael malver wrote:
> pardon my ignorance. I am glad to see that we can use x-windows,
> but will this program also support standard unix shells such as bash, or
> tcsh?
First, I'm no expert on UltraSonix, so take this with a pinch of salt ....
My guess would be `no, unless you run them from inside X'. The reason I
say this is that the techniques needed for the physical screen-reeading
part are very different - on Linux you would use /dev/vcs* to read the
screen outside X, but this varies between different platforms. They must
have thought of this problem, though, so maybe I'm just being pessimistic
...
> Also, are there plans to support other synthesizers? I use a
> keynnote gold internal. I am pretty sure humanware would give the
> documentation out to a programmer willing to attempt the task.
I think this is the idea, once the port is done. Again, I'm not really in
touch with the current project, but I can say that UltraSonix was designed
to make this easy.
> also, I have heard work of trying to make a talking shell for the
> blind. This bothers me. I like bas, other may like tcsh, ksh, or whatever.
> Why can't a screen reader be written that is independent of the shell?
I'd be inclined to agree with you - IMHO Braille/speech access software
should be completely independent of applications, shells etc. (not meaning
to take anything away from EmacSpeak, but that may not help vi users
much). Again, though, I'm afraid I don't actually know about this project
...
Can someone else be more helpful here?
Nikhil.
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Trinity College, Cambridge, England
Tel.: +44 1223 368353
Email: nn201@cus.cam.ac.uk
nnair@debian.org
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