Re: Static IPs

[Andor Demarteau <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>]

On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:

 > Andor,
 > Well, it's partly a matter of personal preference. I have a background of
 > transcribing math and science books into Braille, where it is important to
 > at least know that the graphics are there. And I loke to appear to know what
 > is going on. So I use alt tags. Sometimes it is important for a blind person
 > to know what pictures are on a page so they can point a sighted friend to
 > something that might interest them. For example, look at
As I agree on that, alt-tags are more inportant on clicable stuff.
As images mostly have a rahter well choosen name, the filename mostly says
enough.
Some people owever use over 20 character alt-tags which (I think) are
really too big.


 > http://www.chpi.org/refworks.htm
 > John
 > 
 > Computers to Help People, Inc.
 > http://www.chpi.org
 > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
 > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
 > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:35
 > Subject: Re: Static IPs
 > 
 > 
 > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
 > >
 > >  > Ray,
 > >  > Jaws will report a graphic even if it has no alt tag. It may give the
 > file
 > >  > name of the graphic. I feel that a blind user should know when graphics
 > are
 > >  > there, so he does not appear ignorant to a sighted user. Likewise, a
 > blind
 > >  > user should know about the presence of other visual elements, and a
 > deaf
 > >  > user should know about sound elements. I don't want to seem like a fool
 > to
 > >  > my sighted colleagues.
 > > John, they also can be a little more approciative and know that some
 > things
 > > on a site are not visible for you (or audiable for a deaf person).
 > > Why do we always want to know exactly what sighted people know and make
 > our
 > > lifes that more dificult at the same time.
 > >
 > >  > John
 > >  >
 > >  > Computers to Help People, Inc.
 > >  > http://www.chpi.org
 > >  > 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  > ----- Original Message -----
 > >  > From: "Ray Saldana III" <raysaldana@theriver.com>
 > >  > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
 > >  > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:03
 > >  > Subject: Re: Static IPs
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  > > Carl, one other question, will you share your address with me? I just
 > want
 > >  > > to check it out for curiosity.
 > >  > >     Another question for everyone, I don't use alt tags in my web
 > pages. I
 > >  > > lay the graphics in so if you are using a screen reader you never
 > know
 > >  > they
 > >  > > are there. Do you feel this is a mistake? I myself am always after
 > the
 > >  > text,
 > >  > > and since I am unable to see the pictures, just prefer they lay in
 > and I
 > >  > am
 > >  > > unaware of them. This was my reasoning as I can use the text that is
 > what
 > >  > I
 > >  > > am after, and so prefer the pictures to be left to the sighted
 > community.
 > >  > I
 > >  > > would appreciate others feelings on this.
 > >  > >     I also use Java-applets, but lay them in so a non sighted person
 > never
 > >  > > knows they are there. In other words no interferences with the
 > sharing of
 > >  > > information. Do you guys feel this is a mistake?
 > >  > >     Animations I use and again lay them in the coding so they don't
 > >  > > interfere, sometimes this is not an easy task, but can be
 > accomplished
 > >  > with
 > >  > > some effort. Thanks again!
 > >  > > 73 RR
 > >  > > AB7JM
 > >  > > http://personal.riverusers.com/~ab7jm_gila
 > >  > > ----- Original Message -----
 > >  > > From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
 > >  > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
 > >  > > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:49 AM
 > >  > > Subject: Re: Static IPs
 > >  > >
 > >  > >
 > >  > > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Karl Dahlke wrote:
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > >  > Someone described a pseudo-always-on dsl connection from
 > Ameritech,
 > >  > > >  > wherein the company drops you if you're not busy,
 > >  > > >  > and you wake up with a new ip address.
 > >  > > >  > What a frightening thought.
 > >  > > > have a look at http://www.dhs.org
 > >  > > > great and quick service to get a dynamic-ip with a fixed-hostname.
 > >  > > > Works fine.
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > >  > I've just started hosting my own web site, on my own machine,
 > >  > > >  > and I don't know why I didn't take the plunge long ago.
 > >  > > >  > It's easy, and it's fun.
 > >  > > >  > There are numerous advantages, and a couple disadvantages.
 > >  > > >  > Well anyways, it would be unthinkable if I had such a terrible
 > isp.
 > >  > > >  > I certainly can't reprogram all the name servers on the internet
 > >  > > >  > every time they decide to give me a new ip address.
 > >  > > >  > The cable at-home service doesn't work like that,
 > >  > > >  > and I have nothing but good things to say about them.
 > >  > > >  > They even tried to help me set up,
 > >  > > >  > knowing that I was on Linux.
 > >  > > >  > That's pretty rare.
 > >  > > >  >
 > >  > > >  > Getting back to the IPs;
 > >  > > >  > one day we lost the bill, or it got lost in the mail, or
 > whatever,
 > >  > > >  > and I was behind, so they turned off the service.
 > >  > > >  > I called with my credit card to turn it back on and asked,
 > >  > > >  > please please please,
 > >  > > >  > can I have my old ip back again.
 > >  > > >  > "Sure, we've been saving it for you."
 > >  > > >  > Now that's class,
 > >  > > >  > and its certainly important to those of us who are hosting our
 > own
 > >  > > sites.
 > >  > > >  >
 > >  > > >  > Karl Dahlke
 > >  > > >  >
 > >  > > >  >
 > >  > > >  >
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Andor Demarteau                 E-mail: ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl
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