From: Andor Demarteau <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Static IPs
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 21:35:25 +0200 (MET DST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109082133510.27801-100000@abeel.students.cs.uu.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00dc01c13895$5d6d20c0$e08caad8@tds.net>
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Ray,
> Jaws will report a graphic even if it has no alt tag. It may give the file
> name of the graphic. I feel that a blind user should know when graphics are
> there, so he does not appear ignorant to a sighted user. Likewise, a blind
> user should know about the presence of other visual elements, and a deaf
> user should know about sound elements. I don't want to seem like a fool to
> my sighted colleagues.
John, they also can be a little more approciative and know that some things
on a site are not visible for you (or audiable for a deaf person).
Why do we always want to know exactly what sighted people know and make our
lifes that more dificult at the same time.
> John
>
> Computers to Help People, Inc.
> http://www.chpi.org
> 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Saldana III" <raysaldana@theriver.com>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:03
> Subject: Re: Static IPs
>
>
> > Carl, one other question, will you share your address with me? I just want
> > to check it out for curiosity.
> > Another question for everyone, I don't use alt tags in my web pages. I
> > lay the graphics in so if you are using a screen reader you never know
> they
> > are there. Do you feel this is a mistake? I myself am always after the
> text,
> > and since I am unable to see the pictures, just prefer they lay in and I
> am
> > unaware of them. This was my reasoning as I can use the text that is what
> I
> > am after, and so prefer the pictures to be left to the sighted community.
> I
> > would appreciate others feelings on this.
> > I also use Java-applets, but lay them in so a non sighted person never
> > knows they are there. In other words no interferences with the sharing of
> > information. Do you guys feel this is a mistake?
> > Animations I use and again lay them in the coding so they don't
> > interfere, sometimes this is not an easy task, but can be accomplished
> with
> > some effort. Thanks again!
> > 73 RR
> > AB7JM
> > http://personal.riverusers.com/~ab7jm_gila
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
> > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: Static IPs
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Karl Dahlke wrote:
> > >
> > > > Someone described a pseudo-always-on dsl connection from Ameritech,
> > > > wherein the company drops you if you're not busy,
> > > > and you wake up with a new ip address.
> > > > What a frightening thought.
> > > have a look at http://www.dhs.org
> > > great and quick service to get a dynamic-ip with a fixed-hostname.
> > > Works fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've just started hosting my own web site, on my own machine,
> > > > and I don't know why I didn't take the plunge long ago.
> > > > It's easy, and it's fun.
> > > > There are numerous advantages, and a couple disadvantages.
> > > > Well anyways, it would be unthinkable if I had such a terrible isp.
> > > > I certainly can't reprogram all the name servers on the internet
> > > > every time they decide to give me a new ip address.
> > > > The cable at-home service doesn't work like that,
> > > > and I have nothing but good things to say about them.
> > > > They even tried to help me set up,
> > > > knowing that I was on Linux.
> > > > That's pretty rare.
> > > >
> > > > Getting back to the IPs;
> > > > one day we lost the bill, or it got lost in the mail, or whatever,
> > > > and I was behind, so they turned off the service.
> > > > I called with my credit card to turn it back on and asked,
> > > > please please please,
> > > > can I have my old ip back again.
> > > > "Sure, we've been saving it for you."
> > > > Now that's class,
> > > > and its certainly important to those of us who are hosting our own
> > sites.
> > > >
> > > > Karl Dahlke
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > slainte mhaith (good health), slainte (cheers)
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Karl Dahlke
` Henry Yen
` John J. Boyer
` Janina Sajka
` Ari Moisio
` Andor Demarteau
` Ari Moisio
` Andor Demarteau
` Kenny Hitt
` Andor Demarteau
` Ray Saldana III
` John J. Boyer
` Andor Demarteau [this message]
` John J. Boyer
` Andor Demarteau
` Ray Saldana III
` John J. Boyer
` Ray Saldana III
` Andor Demarteau
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