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From: Andor Demarteau <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl>
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: The growing accessibility gap:  was Ameritech.net
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:02:26 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109082001110.27801-100000@abeel.students.cs.uu.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109072137530.17235-100000@ns.shellworld.net>

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 > When a computer language is written so that it's possible for stupid
 > programmers to generate garbage with it and call that finished product the
 > inventors of the language in my book take full responsibility for having
 > enabled the garbage.  html on its face before netscape and microsoft came
 > in and added their innovations was lots more accessible just using lynx
 > than most of the world-wide wait is today.
true in that respect that
a. blaming people to forget you as blind person in there desing-issues is
rightout arrogant
b. c and c++ can be graphical as well, yet I don't here discussions about
that


 > Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
 > 
 > On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Peter Toneby wrote:
 > 
 > > On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:36:26PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 > > > The three companies primarily responsible for inaccessibility are sun
 > > > microsystems for having invented java in the first place.  Second netscape
 > > > for having innovated html and java.  Third Microsoft for having innovated
 > > > everything else.
 > >
 > > *beeep*
 > > Now this is pretty much plain wrong!!!!
 > > Java, in and on itself, is not inaccessible, it's stupid programmers
 > > that write stupid java-applets,. That should never have been possible.
 > > HTML is not netscapes fault, it w3c's, and netscape hasn't touched Java
 > > very much, IE and Netscape had java-support at the same time. And
 > > Microsoft haven't innovated shit. they have moslty bought their
 > > "innovations" and Windows is alot more accesible than linux when it
 > > comes to apps, In Linux you can't just start jaws and then pretty much
 > > any other app without problems, try and do that on linux with X (say to
 > > do something thee are no fileformat->text-app, You will fail miserably,
 > > but luckily this is seldom the case for most of you. And you can happily
 > > use Linux in console instead of X.
 > >
 > > oh, well time to stop rantin and start sleeping...
 > >
 > > /Peter
 > > --
 > > Alpha Test Version:  Too buggy to be released to the paying public.
 > > Beta Test Version:  Still too buggy to be released.
 > > Release Version:  Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version".
 > >
 > >
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  parent reply	other threads:[~ UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Ameritech.net Karl Dahlke
 ` Ameritech.net Cheryl Homiak
 ` Ameritech.net Cheryl Homiak
 ` Ameritech.net Janina Sajka
   ` Ameritech.net John J. Boyer
     ` Ameritech.net Janina Sajka
   ` Ameritech.net S. Massy
     ` The growing accessibility gap: was Ameritech.net Cheryl Homiak
       ` Jude DaShiell
         ` Peter Toneby
           ` Jude DaShiell
             ` Aman Singer
               ` Jude DaShiell
                 ` Aman Singer
             ` Andor Demarteau [this message]
         ` Andor Demarteau
           ` Mike Gorse
             ` Andor Demarteau
     [not found]         ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109081949390.27801-100000@abeel.students.cs .uu.nl>
           ` simon
             ` Andor Demarteau
               ` Saqib Shaikh
 blindguy13
 ` Joseph Carter
 ` Jude DaShiell
   ` Jared
     ` Jude DaShiell
     ` Angelo Sonnesso
       ` Jared
     ` Rick Hayner
       ` Jude DaShiell
     ` Rafael Skodlar
       ` Andor Demarteau
         ` Ray Saldana III
     ` Ari Moisio
 ` Andor Demarteau
 Adam Bertram
 ` Joseph Carter

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