From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.21]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8JGd6VX031036 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:39:06 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.7]) by int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8JGd1rg007900 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:39:01 -0400 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8JGckHp032286 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:38:46 -0400 Received: by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix, from userid 1028) id D053122A6D; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE83822814 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:38:45 -0700 From: Hart Larry To: Blinux Discussion List Subject: News Group Issues within Pine? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.21 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.110.7 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:39:06 -0000 Well, since at least 1997 I am still grabbing binaries from Pine, but now I must pipe raw messages through uudeview - because of the yenc encoding. Anyway, here on Shellworld, since we don't have news, I grab via nntp from Giganews. All seems to go well until either I change news-groups during the same Pine session, or mysteriously while I am grabbing binaries. All of a sudden, I see an error message, "no state found for news group alt.binaries.remixes.mp3, reading as new" Once that happens, all the rest of my .newsrc file is hidden away, and I only at most have that 1 group active. Now that Giganews is up to 700 days binary retention, many binary groups are way too large for Pine to read, or even after you open a larger group, sometimes, says, "problem detected, abort trap, trying to save debug" On Shellworld I can still work on groups through trn but on my local machine trn will not compile in FC9 Sure replacing an older .newsrc file temporarily restores these groups, but obviously I need to read or catchup. However, this no state found problem is becoming worse. Can some1 please suggest why this is happening or a fix. I've tried setting an nntp range in Pine, but 30thousand is as high as it will go, but you only see the last 30000 postings. Thanks so much in advance Hart