* Linux, how do you eat yours?
@ Stoppard
` Dave Hunt
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From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly?
Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux?
Thanks,
Nigel
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? Linux, how do you eat yours? Stoppard @ ` Dave Hunt ` Stoppard ` Kenny Hitt ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi, I have a single-user, desktop workstation running Linux. I use it for web searching, programming, email, irc, voice chat, listening to mp3 files, spreadsheet stuff, etc. The system is Redhat and Emacspeak (with all the speech-enabled extensions). -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Dave Hunt @ ` Stoppard ` Dave Hunt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi David, thank you for your reply. I was thinking emacs speak might be good to use since it is the most developed screen reader. But how do you use it for web browsing as i have read it is not that good with Links. Also with emacs can you curso up and read what has previosly been typed and appeaared on the screen when using the command prompt? Also am not sure what you ment by all the extensions? thanks, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hunt" <dave.hunt2@verizon.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? > Hi, > > I have a single-user, desktop workstation running Linux. I use it for web > searching, programming, email, irc, voice chat, listening to mp3 files, > spreadsheet stuff, etc. The system is Redhat and Emacspeak (with all the > speech-enabled extensions). > > > -Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Stoppard @ ` Dave Hunt ` Stoppard 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi, Many of the tools I use with emacspeak are either entirely written in emacs-lisp or front ends for accessing tools written in other languages. Emacspeak, itself, is one of the former. All these are extensions of emacs's feature set. I have three web clients I use with emacspeak, w3, w3m, and lynx. There's a nice mode for launching and running lynx from within emacspeak. W3 is a web client, written entirely in emacs-lisp. Finally, there's a speech-enabled "front end" for the w3m web client. I need three because none works on all sites I often visit. For irc and other things, I run a shell (mine happens to be BASH), from within emacs. All the editing features of emacs are available in a shell buffer. Thus, you can move around the buffer, do searches, save a bunch of commands and responses, and so on. It's better than any screen-review mode; you have a running log of your shell session. This letter is written with yet another emacspeak-enabled extension called VM. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Dave Hunt @ ` Stoppard ` Dave Hunt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi Dave, If i understand you correctly then you need to get extension packages for emacs for programs that do not work with emacs by default? Is this a bit like requiring different script files for jaws to work with different applications? I take it you need VM to work with your mail client through emacs speak? Thanks in advance, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hunt" <dave.hunt2@verizon.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? > Hi, > > Many of the tools I use with emacspeak are either entirely written in > emacs-lisp or front ends for accessing tools written in other > languages. Emacspeak, itself, is one of the former. All these are > extensions of emacs's feature set. > > I have three web clients I use with emacspeak, w3, w3m, and lynx. > There's a nice mode for launching and running lynx from within > emacspeak. W3 is a web client, written entirely in emacs-lisp. Finally, there's a > speech-enabled "front end" for the w3m web client. I need three > because none works on all sites I often visit. > > For irc and other things, I run a shell (mine happens to be BASH), > from within emacs. All the editing features of emacs are available in > a shell buffer. Thus, you can move around the buffer, do searches, > save a bunch of commands and responses, and so on. It's better than > any screen-review mode; you have a running log of your shell session. > > > This letter is written with yet another emacspeak-enabled extension > called VM. > > > -Dave > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Stoppard @ ` Dave Hunt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list I suppose speech-enabling an emacs extension is analogous to writing JFW scripts for an application. Furthermore, an emacs extension is like writing scripts for emacs. VM, btw, is an emacs extension; it is an email client. Consider emacs and extensions to be a kind of "desk top". For a complete discussion, have a look at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? Linux, how do you eat yours? Stoppard ` Dave Hunt @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Kenny Hitt ` Lorenzo Prince ` Jude DaShiell 3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi. I use Linux for everything. I don't use IRC much but I have ircii configured for the times I want to play with it. Kenny On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote: > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly? > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux? > > Thanks, > Nigel > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Stoppard 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Oops, didn't realized you might want details. I listen to several broad band internet stations both MP3 and ogg formats. I can listend to Real audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality. I do a lot of web browsing. I have a small local network. I have another computer on my network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log into my faster desktop under a GUI. She uses the desktop for Word processing, web browsing, and photo editing. Of course, we both use the systems for email. Kenny On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. I use Linux for everything. I don't use IRC much but I have ircii > configured for the times I want to play with it. > > Kenny > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote: > > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly? > > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux? > > > > Thanks, > > Nigel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Stoppard ` kenny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi Kenny, thanks for the info. What screen reader do you use and what do you use for web browsing and email? Thanks, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? > Oops, didn't realized you might want details. I listen to several broad > band internet stations both MP3 and ogg formats. I can listend to Real > audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality. > I do a lot of web browsing. > I have a small local network. I have another computer on my > network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log > into my faster desktop under a GUI. > She uses the desktop for Word processing, web > browsing, and photo editing. Of course, we both use the systems for > email. > > Kenny > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. I use Linux for everything. I don't use IRC much but I have ircii > > configured for the times I want to play with it. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote: > > > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly? > > > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Stoppard @ ` kenny 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: kenny @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi. I mostly use speakup for my screen reader. I mostly use elinks for browsing. I also use lynx and links2.1 for browsers. Each of them can have advantages for certain sights. Lately, I rarely use lynx since elinks does most everything lynx can. I test the latest versions of speakup, so I also use yasr to help me figure out what might have went wrong if speakup dies. Please note the spelling for elinks, lynx, and links2.1. They all sound the same with speech. For mail, I use mutt. Mutt rules! Kenny On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:21:19AM -0000, Stoppard wrote: > Hi Kenny, thanks for the info. > What screen reader do you use and what do you use for web browsing and > email? > > Thanks, > Nigel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net> > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? > > > > Oops, didn't realized you might want details. I listen to several broad > > band internet stations both MP3 and ogg formats. I can listend to Real > > audio or Windows media formats but I can't stand the audio quality. > > I do a lot of web browsing. > > I have a small local network. I have another computer on my > > network configured as an x terminal so my sighted girl friend can log > > into my faster desktop under a GUI. > > She uses the desktop for Word processing, web > > browsing, and photo editing. Of course, we both use the systems for > > email. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:41:58PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > Hi. I use Linux for everything. I don't use IRC much but I have ircii > > > configured for the times I want to play with it. > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:41PM -0000, Stoppard wrote: > > > > I was just woundering what people on this list use Linux for mainly? > > > > Also is it possible to use IRC under Linux? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? Linux, how do you eat yours? Stoppard ` Dave Hunt ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Lorenzo Prince ` Stoppard ` Jude DaShiell 3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 258 bytes --] Linux runs on both my home PC and my laptop and does just about everything. And yes, it is possible to run IRC on Linux. THere is a progrem called epic and another one called bitchx. They are both IRC clients and run from the text console. PRINCE [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Lorenzo Prince @ ` Stoppard ` Lorenzo Prince 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi prince, Thanks for the information, although i was woundering why you put them as an atachment? Thanks Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@prince.homelinux.org> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? ` Stoppard @ ` Lorenzo Prince 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Stoppard staggered into view and mumbled: > Hi prince, > Thanks for the information, although i was woundering why you put them as an > atachment? It has something to do with my GPG signature. Any time I digitally sign a message, it saparates the body and signature into attachments. I am using Mutt, and don't know how to fix this, unless I can get some help on that. PRINCE ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? Linux, how do you eat yours? Stoppard ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Lorenzo Prince @ ` Jude DaShiell ` micq? Stoppard 3 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Not only irc but micq too. Search for the naim package and that sould get you going if you need text interface. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* micq? ` Jude DaShiell @ ` Stoppard ` micq? Dave Hunt ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq? Thanks, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Linux, how do you eat yours? > Not only irc but micq too. Search for the naim package and that sould get > you going if you need text interface. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* micq? ` micq? Stoppard @ ` Dave Hunt ` micq? Jois ` micq? Jude DaShiell 2 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list I reckon he's saying Micq is available. Maybe I'll try it. I have an icq number, but never use it. I already have an emacs package for AIM, called tnt. It works well enough. -Dave Stoppard> Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package Stoppard> called micq? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Stoppard ` micq? Dave Hunt @ ` Jois ` micq? Stoppard ` micq? Jude DaShiell 2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Jois @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list At 15.47 05/12/2003, you wrote: >Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq? yep, it does and there is another one, more windows-friendly, called centericq. http://www.centericq.de and another one more, called ysm http://ysmv7.sourceforge.net but with this last one, I do not manage to check when I have many users writing messages to me. I use centericq, but it's quite a trouble to add contacts, and there's no way to send files. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Jois @ ` Stoppard ` micq? Jois 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Stoppard @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list And this is all from the command prompt? thanks, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jois" <antipalladium@screentiful.it> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: micq? > At 15.47 05/12/2003, you wrote: > >Are you saying ICQ will work with Linux with a package called micq? > yep, it does > and there is another one, more windows-friendly, called centericq. > http://www.centericq.de > and another one more, called ysm > http://ysmv7.sourceforge.net > but with this last one, I do not manage to check when I have many users > writing messages to me. > I use centericq, but it's quite a trouble to add contacts, and there's no > way to send files. > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Stoppard @ ` Jois 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Jois @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list At 16.57 05/12/2003, you wrote: >And this is all from the command prompt? yes it's by console. I hope to get information about naim, I am interested in that package ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Stoppard ` micq? Dave Hunt ` micq? Jois @ ` Jude DaShiell ` micq? Jois 2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list no, icq is another protocol different from irc. The reason I didn't mention micq earlier is that it's a single protocol package. naim is a multiple protocol package as is centeric but naim is easier to figure out and get working. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Jude DaShiell @ ` Jois ` micq? Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Jois @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list naim. Where is the package you mentioned? where could I find it? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: micq? ` micq? Jois @ ` Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Well, try http://naim.n.ml.org/. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
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