* Speakup questions
@ Geetha Shamanna
` Janina Sajka
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Geetha Shamanna @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Hello all,
First of all, thanks much to everyone who responded to my question about
problems with booting into Linux. I hope to sort out that problem in a day
or two.
Now to my questions:
1. I just downloaded the Speakup file Speakup-1.00.tar.gz.
Does this zip file contain all the installation files, or do I need to
download any other file as well? I ask this because the readme file talks
about default key assignment, but the corresponding file appears to be
missing. Should I download this file separately?
2. I already have Emacspeak installed on my machine. Will Speakup recognize
and
co-exist with Emacspeak? Also, should Speakup be unloaded prior to using
Emacspeak?
Many thanks.
Geetha
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread* Re: Speakup questions Speakup questions Geetha Shamanna @ ` Janina Sajka ` Dave Hunt < [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141404080.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > 2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Speakup is a patch to the Linux kernel. The tar file you downloaded won't do anything for you unless you patch it into the kernel, and successfully compile it on your system. While many of us first got our Linux computers talking that way, it is generally not the easiest way for a new user to get Linux talking with Speakup. Remind us what Linux you installed and where you got it, please? PS: Speakup and emacspeak will coexist nicely. On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Geetha Shamanna wrote: > Hello all, > > First of all, thanks much to everyone who responded to my question about > problems with booting into Linux. I hope to sort out that problem in a day > or two. > > Now to my questions: > > 1. I just downloaded the Speakup file Speakup-1.00.tar.gz. > Does this zip file contain all the installation files, or do I need to > download any other file as well? I ask this because the readme file talks > about default key assignment, but the corresponding file appears to be > missing. Should I download this file separately? > 2. I already have Emacspeak installed on my machine. Will Speakup recognize > and > co-exist with Emacspeak? Also, should Speakup be unloaded prior to using > Emacspeak? > > Many thanks. > > Geetha > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Speakup questions Speakup questions Geetha Shamanna ` Janina Sajka @ ` Dave Hunt < ` Geetha Shamanna [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141404080.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > 2 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt < @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hello, I think the default key assignments file is in the "doc" subdirectory of the "speakup"speakup" directory that results from unpacking the archive. It's also on the speakup web site. Speakup and emacspeak can coexist, unless you use the same external synthesizer for both. In general, when I wish to use emacspeak, I boot a kernel image that does not start speakup. I have, however, had both running, where emacspeak uses Viavoice Outloud as its synth, and speakup is using my doubletalk lt. -Dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Dave Hunt < @ ` Geetha Shamanna ` Dave Hunt < 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Geetha Shamanna @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list I plan to use the same internal synthesizer for both Speakup and Emacspeak (DoubleTalk PC internal). Is that likely to cause problems? Geetha At 03:01 PM 14/08/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > >I think the default key assignments file is in the "doc" subdirectory >of the "speakup"speakup" directory that results from unpacking the >archive. It's also on the speakup web site. > > >Speakup and emacspeak can coexist, unless you use the same external >synthesizer for both. In general, when I wish to use emacspeak, I >boot a kernel image that does not start speakup. I have, however, had >both running, where emacspeak uses Viavoice Outloud as its synth, and >speakup is using my doubletalk lt. > >-Dave > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/02 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Geetha Shamanna @ ` Dave Hunt < ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Dave Hunt < @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list If you wish to use the same synth for both, it will have to be one or You can use the same synthesizer for both, but not simultaniously. If you wish to run emacspeak, boot a kernel without speakup or its default keymap. -Dave Geetha Shamanna writes: > I plan to use the same internal synthesizer for both Speakup and Emacspeak > (DoubleTalk PC internal). Is that likely to cause problems? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Dave Hunt < @ ` Janina Sajka ` Geetha Shamanna 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list I don't do it this way, so I'm likely not the best to answer, but why not just kill Speakup in your emacspeak console with the PrintScreen key? Also, you have the option of software speech with emacspeak using eflite--see: http://eflite.sf.net On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Dave Hunt < wrote: > If you wish to use the same synth for both, it will have to be one or > You can use the same synthesizer for both, but not simultaniously. If > you wish to run emacspeak, boot a kernel without speakup or its > default keymap. > > -Dave > > Geetha Shamanna writes: > > I plan to use the same internal synthesizer for both Speakup and Emacspeak > > (DoubleTalk PC internal). Is that likely to cause problems? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Janina Sajka @ ` Geetha Shamanna ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Geetha Shamanna @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list >I don't do it this way, so I'm likely not the best to answer, but why not >just kill Speakup in your emacspeak console with the PrintScreen key? And how does one reinvoke Speakup when one exits Emacspeak? Is it possible to configure things in such a way that Speakup is automatically killed when one runs Emacspeak, and reinvoked when one exits Emacspeak? Just curious. Geetha At 10:10 AM 15/08/02 -0400, you wrote: > >I don't do it this way, so I'm likely not the best to answer, but why not >just kill Speakup in your emacspeak console with the PrintScreen key? > >Also, you have the option of software speech with emacspeak using >eflite--see: > > http://eflite.sf.net > >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Dave Hunt < wrote: > >> If you wish to use the same synth for both, it will have to be one or >> You can use the same synthesizer for both, but not simultaniously. If >> you wish to run emacspeak, boot a kernel without speakup or its >> default keymap. >> >> -Dave >> >> Geetha Shamanna writes: >> > I plan to use the same internal synthesizer for both Speakup and Emacspeak >> > (DoubleTalk PC internal). Is that likely to cause problems? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/02 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Geetha Shamanna @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hmmm, don't know about an automated scripting, but would expect something is workable as Speakup's control parms are all in /proc/speakup. The PrintScreen is used as an on/off toggle. On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Geetha Shamanna wrote: > >I don't do it this way, so I'm likely not the best to answer, but why not > >just kill Speakup in your emacspeak console with the PrintScreen key? > And how does one reinvoke Speakup when one exits Emacspeak? > > Is it possible to configure things in such a way that Speakup is > automatically killed when one runs Emacspeak, and reinvoked when one exits > Emacspeak? Just curious. > > Geetha > At 10:10 AM 15/08/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > >I don't do it this way, so I'm likely not the best to answer, but why not > >just kill Speakup in your emacspeak console with the PrintScreen key? > > > >Also, you have the option of software speech with emacspeak using > >eflite--see: > > > > http://eflite.sf.net > > > >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Dave Hunt < wrote: > > > >> If you wish to use the same synth for both, it will have to be one or > >> You can use the same synthesizer for both, but not simultaniously. If > >> you wish to run emacspeak, boot a kernel without speakup or its > >> default keymap. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> Geetha Shamanna writes: > >> > I plan to use the same internal synthesizer for both Speakup and > Emacspeak > >> > (DoubleTalk PC internal). Is that likely to cause problems? > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > >Chair, Accessibility SIG > >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/02 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
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* Re: Speakup questions [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141404080.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > @ ` Geetha Shamanna ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Geetha Shamanna @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list >Remind us what Linux you installed and where you got it, please? Redhat 7.1. I installed it from regular Redhat CD's. A sighted friend has offered to help me with Speakup installation and the kernel compilation. I should however have all the relevant files ready to begin with. I will be using Speakup with DoubleTalk PC internal synthesizer. Apart from the file speakup-1.00.tar.gz, Which other files would I require? Thanks, Geetha ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Geetha Shamanna @ ` Janina Sajka ` ADFM ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi, Geetha: There's an easier way, provided you can download about 10.3 mB of data. Use anonymous ftp and go to: ftp.linux-speakup.org Once logged in, cd to: pub/speakup/disks/redhat/7.2/RPMS/ Please note the capital letters in the directory path above. You need to download two files. 1.) The kernel-2.4.9 ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, etc; 2.) consoletools-19990829-36.i386.rpm Be sure to download both of these two .rpm files in binary mode. It happens that the kernel and the console tools from Red Hat 7.2 work just fine with Red Hat 7.1, and these are the latest available for you--unless you have a fast Internet connection, which I suspect you don't have. Once you have these two files, you install them as follows: rpm -iv [filename] where [filename] is first the kernel file, and then the consoletools file. HINT: You don't need to type the entire filename. Instead, begin to type it, and then press the TAB key. Your Linux shell will fill out the rest of the filename for you, which is certainly very helpful with these very long filenames. If it beeps, you haven't typed enough to make it unique, so just add some more chars and then do TAB again. After you've successfully installed these files, you have one more step to a talking Linux: Edit your /etc/lilo.conf with information about the new kernel and your speakup parameters. Here's an example--edit this example to match your situation ... In the top section, make sure to have a line like the following: default=litetalk Then create an entry (set aside by blank lines at the beginning and end of the section) something like: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-31 label=litetalk alias = l initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.9-31.img read-only root=/dev/hda1 append="speakup_synth=ltlk" Make sure that your image= and initrd= actually point to the correct filename in /boot. Also, make sure that your label= and default= are the same, "litetalk" in my example above. Save and exit. Run lilo as root: /sbin/lilo When you reboot, you'll hear Speakup chattering away shortly after the OS begins booting. To learn more about this, read our Installation HOWTO for the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution at: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html We discuss this process, and several other tips you'll find useful. By the way, what speech synth are you using? PS: You can also access the kernel rpm and the consoletools rpm via web browser at: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/7.2/RPMS/ Again, be sure to download as binary. On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Geetha Shamanna wrote: > >Remind us what Linux you installed and where you got it, please? > > Redhat 7.1. I installed it from regular Redhat CD's. > > A sighted friend has offered to help me with Speakup installation and the > kernel compilation. I should however have all the relevant files ready to > begin with. > I will be using Speakup with DoubleTalk PC internal synthesizer. Apart from > the file speakup-1.00.tar.gz, Which other files would I require? > > Thanks, > Geetha > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Janina Sajka @ ` ADFM ` John ` Pawel (Paul) Loba 0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: ADFM @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Janina or anyone else > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium Pro was a i686. Angus MacKinnon Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc. http://www.choroideremia.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` ADFM @ ` John ` Janina Sajka ` Pawel (Paul) Loba 1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: John @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list i686 though any of the others will work too. On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:57, ADFM wrote: > > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, > > > > What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium Pro was a i686. > > -- Cheers John. Please, no off-list mail. You will fall foul of my spam treatment. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` John @ ` Janina Sajka ` John ` Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Your Pentium 3 is probably i686, but John's advice is correct. The others will also work. On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, John wrote: > > i686 though any of the others will work too. > > On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:57, ADFM wrote: > > > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, > > > > > > > > What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium > Pro was a i686. > > > > > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Janina Sajka @ ` John ` Jude DaShiell 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: John @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Thursday 15 August 2002 21:16, Janina Sajka wrote: > Your Pentium 3 is probably i686 Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III and Pentium IV are _all_ i686 in this context. -- Cheers John. Please, no off-list mail. You will fall foul of my spam treatment. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Janina Sajka ` John @ ` Jude DaShiell ` David Csercsics 1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list My dell p3 was detected as an i686 if that's any help. On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Your Pentium 3 is probably i686, but John's advice is correct. The others > will also work. > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, John wrote: > > > > > i686 though any of the others will work too. > > > > On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:57, ADFM wrote: > > > > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium > > Pro was a i686. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Jude DaShiell @ ` David Csercsics ` John 0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread From: David Csercsics @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list It doesn't matter anyway since i386 i486 i586 and i686 architectures are all from the same family so kernels or packages for any of those architectures should work on all of the modern amd or intel chips that you woudl usually find in a PC's if I understand it correctly. ---- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Speakup questions > My dell p3 was detected as an i686 if that's any help. > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Your Pentium 3 is probably i686, but John's advice is correct. The others > > will also work. > > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, John wrote: > > > > > > > > i686 though any of the others will work too. > > > > > > On Thursday 15 August 2002 09:57, ADFM wrote: > > > > > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium > > > Pro was a i686. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` David Csercsics @ ` John 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: John @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list That is untrue. glibc for i686 will not run on Pentiums or less. Nor will i686 kernels - it will not boot. The compatibility is on only one direction. On Saturday 17 August 2002 05:33, David Csercsics wrote: > It doesn't matter anyway since i386 i486 i586 and i686 architectures are all > from the same family so kernels or packages for any of those architectures > should work on all of the modern amd or intel chips that you woudl usually > find in a PC's if I understand it correctly. -- Cheers John. Please, no off-list mail. You will fall foul of my spam treatment. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` ADFM ` John @ ` Pawel (Paul) Loba 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Pawel (Paul) Loba @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Good day: uname -m should help and it'd be advisable to have a look at man uname Hope it helps, Pawel. On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, ADFM wrote: > Janina or anyone else > > > ... appropriate to your cpu, i686, i586, i386, > > What would be a Pentium 3? I thought the Pentium was a i 586 and the Pentium Pro was a i686. > > Angus MacKinnon > Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE > Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm > MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com > Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc. > http://www.choroideremia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Geetha Shamanna ` Janina Sajka @ ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141607110.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > 1 sibling, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Geetha: Please excuse me. You did say what synthesizer you have in your message, the Doubletalk PC internal. This is excellent. It's the best card, imho, for Speakup. Simply change the lilo.conf to something like: append "speakup_synth=dtlk" And, of course, you might want to change the label= and default= as well. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup questions ` Janina Sajka @ ` Janina Sajka [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141607110.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Geetha: One more suggestion, and I'm sorry if I overwhelm you with ideas! If downloading 10 mB is unworkable from your side of the planet, here's yet another very good shortcut to a talking Linux. Be sure you've installed the kernel source rpm. Look at /usr/src/linux-2.4. if you see files, you've got it. If not, it's on one of your CD ROMs in the RedHat/RPMS directory. Install with a similar rpm command: rpm -iv kernel-source* Next, cd to /usr/src and create one more symbolic link which the Speakup patch will look for: ln -sf linux-2.4 linux Now, you can cd to linux/configs. In there you'll find the Red Hat kernel configuration for each supported cpu. Find the one for your cpu and copy it to ../.config, so that it is in /usr/src/linux/.config. Now, after patching the source files with Speakup, you can simply issue this command: make oldconfig And you'll only be prompted about Speakup specific things. This should help insure you don't make a mistake in the dozens of configuration choices and end up with a kernel that won't boot. We know that your installation boots. It's highly advisable to add Speakup before trying out other configuration changes--if any. This way, Speakup is the only change you'll make. The rest of the process remains the same: make deps; clean; bzImage; modules; modules_install; install And, you still need to edit /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo as before. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
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* Re: Speakup questions [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208141607110.26724-100000@TekRD.grg.afb.net > @ ` Geetha Shamanna 0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Geetha Shamanna @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi Janina, Thanks for all your suggestions and detailed instructions. I am constantly amazed at the amount of assistance offered to new users here. As you have rightly guessed, a 10MB download is not practical with my Internet connection. The shortcut you suggest is however an excellent alternative and should work out just fine for me. I will try it out today and will inform you of the outcome. Thanks again. Geetha At 04:13 PM 14/08/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Geetha: > >One more suggestion, and I'm sorry if I overwhelm you with ideas! > >If downloading 10 mB is unworkable from your side of the planet, here's >yet another very good shortcut to a talking Linux. > >Be sure you've installed the kernel source rpm. Look at >/usr/src/linux-2.4. if you see files, you've got it. If not, it's on one >of your CD ROMs in the RedHat/RPMS directory. Install with a similar rpm >command: > >rpm -iv kernel-source* > >Next, cd to /usr/src and create one more symbolic link which the Speakup >patch will look for: > >ln -sf linux-2.4 linux > >Now, you can cd to linux/configs. In there you'll find the Red Hat kernel >configuration for each supported cpu. Find the one for your cpu and copy >it to ../.config, so that it is in /usr/src/linux/.config. > >Now, after patching the source files with Speakup, you can simply issue >this command: > >make oldconfig > >And you'll only be prompted about Speakup specific things. > >This should help insure you don't make a mistake in the dozens of >configuration choices and end up with a kernel that won't boot. We know >that your installation boots. It's highly advisable to add Speakup before >trying out other configuration changes--if any. This way, Speakup is the >only change you'll make. > >The rest of the process remains the same: > >make deps; clean; bzImage; modules; modules_install; install > >And, you still need to edit /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo as before. > > > > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 02/08/02 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* speakup questions @ Kristoffer Gustafsson ` Buddy Brannan ` Kirk Reiser 0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Kristoffer Gustafsson @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hello! i have some questions about speakup. 1. when will there be any suport for the infovox speech synthesizer? i know that i have asked the question before but i ask it again because i shall go a course next year wich contains for example installing linux. 2. is there a way to get an infovox speaking right now. thank in advance Kristoffer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup questions speakup questions Kristoffer Gustafsson @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Kirk Reiser 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 05:15:03PM +0200, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote: > 1. when will there be any suport for the infovox speech synthesizer? Soon as someone writes a driver. ... I an' help--sorry--but if you have specification for how to communicate with the thing and the know-how, you might start by modifying one of the drivers (say, for the Doubletalk LT or the Accent SA) and stick in the relevant codes to communicate with the Infovox. Assuming external, of course. You might could send docs to Kirk, but no guarantees when he might get round to doing anything with them. > 2. is there a way to get an infovox speaking right now. Someone might correct me, but you might try BRASS at http://www.butenuth.onlinehome.de/blinux At least, that the lst place I knew of where it was. I haven't tried it though, so can't speak to its usability. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | I choose you to take up all of my time. Email: davros@ycardz.com | I choose you because you're funny and kind | I want easy people from now on. | --the Nields ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup questions speakup questions Kristoffer Gustafsson ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Kirk Reiser 1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi Kris: I still don't have the infovox driver written. I've been kind of busy doing other stuff. I'll try to find some time to through something together. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread
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