SV: SV: kernel compilation

SV: SV: kernel compilation

[Kristoffer Gustafsson]

hello!
yes, it detects my card.
it sas pci audio something.
it is made by intel corporation.
so, it finds this card ok.
now the trouble is to get the card to work.

i'll try to get the info in a file if i can and send it to youif you need
it.
also, can you send me the latest suse-blinux version as an attachment ot me
if it doesn't is too large.
i know that you are developing it.

have a nice day all blinuxers!


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Skickat: den 25 juni 2003 14:00
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Hi!

The detection of your soundcard is not a matter of YaST, I think its
alsa related. Just try the command

alsaconf

as root, thats exactly the same command whitch is executed by YaST. Also
you could try the command

hwinfo --sound

to let the system look, if your soundcard is detected automaticly...
Please send me the output, maybe I can help you.

What SuSE-version are you using? What kernel is installed on your
system? Normaly all alsamodules are included in the distri, also the
oss-modules. Have you ever used the soundcard with linux before and are
you shure, that this card is supported?

Regards,
Schoeppi


On Mit, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:47:00 +0200, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>
> hello!
> the module i want is the braille voyager driver module.
> I also want to recompile my kernel to get the sound support.
> i have tried now both loading the intel module but it doesn't want to load
> and yast says that i have gotting an error during instalation.
> how shall i get alsa to detect my card.
> i tried the alsaconf script with no sucsess.
> why do you think that yast refuses to enable my card?
> can it be that the kernel doesn't have sound support?
> if so where can i get a kernel with sound support for suse linux?
> hope you can help me.
> it is not fun with a soundless linux.
>
> thanks in advance
>
> kristoffer
>
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>
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
>
> > I have consided to recompile my kernel and
> > update it from 2.4.  something to 2.5.54.
>
> [stuff about difficulties deleted]
>
> > i have read the linux kernel howto but i find
> > this hard to understand.
>
> Well, here's a very important bit you perhaps
> missed from the HOWTO:
>
>    There are two versions of the linux kernel
>    source, ``production'' and ``development.''
>    Production releases are the even-minor-numbered
>    releases; 1.2.x was production, 2.0.x is
>    production, as well as 2.2.x. These kernels are
>    considered to be the most stable, bug-free
>    versions available at the time of release. The
>    development kernels (2.1.x, 2.3.x, etc) are
>    meant as testing kernels, for people willing to
>    test out new and possibly very buggy kernels.
>    You have been warned.
>
> This means you are trying to build an unstable,
> changing, possibly buggy, non-production kernel,
> with new experimental features, that are not fully
> debugged.
>
> Really, except for very special circumstances or
> hardware, re-compiling kernels is largely
> obsolete, and generally a waste of time, and
> certainly not a project for someone new to this
> kind of stuff.  Virtually all the extras you might
> want are included with the huge package of
> modules, and performance tuning can now be done
> without recompiling, on a running kernel, using
> decent front ends like /sbin/sysctl.
>
> You can almost always get special kernels already
> built for special needs (such as speakup).  And
> RedHat has already patched in many extras for you,
> as do other distributors.
>
> If you really want to experiment, I suggest that,
> at the appropriate time, you go to, say, the Red
> Hat rawhide directories, and get a pre-2.6 kernel
> (in a few months), and be prepared to accept the
> risk involved.
>
> If there is still something special you really
> need, let us know, and we may be able to help you
> build the modules for it without even having the
> whole kernel source installed, such as the alsa
> drivers.  Red Hat makes such things fairly
> convenient, and even provides a set of kernel
> config files for the kernels they ship: you just
> move the right one into place when needed.
>
> LCR
>
> --
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Re: SV: SV: kernel compilation

[Christian Schoepplein]

Hi Kristoffer!

On Mit, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:27:42 +0200, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
> yes, it detects my card.

Who detects your card? hwinfo or alsaconf?

> it sas pci audio something.
> it is made by intel corporation.
> so, it finds this card ok.
> now the trouble is to get the card to work.
> 
> i'll try to get the info in a file if i can and send it to youif you need
> it.

That would be helpfull. Just do a

hwinfo --sound > cardinfo

and send the cardinfo file to me.

> also, can you send me the latest suse-blinux version as an attachment ot me
> if it doesn't is too large.

You can get the newest source-rpm here:

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/8.2/suse/src/sbl-2.0-84.src.rpm

> i know that you are developing it.

No, I'm not the developper, I just help Marco in some things. Marco 
Skambraks (marco@suse.de) is writing the code for sbl.

Best regards,
Schoeppi

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SV: SV: kernel compilation

[Kristoffer Gustafsson]

hello!
I have tried the steps you told me but I still have problem.
these are the steps i done
first I unpacked the kernel source.
tar -zxf linux-2.5.54.tar.gz
then i typed make make menuconfig.
in menuconfig i configured my kernel with sound support, usb and braille
voyager support.
the rest of the kernel stuff i needed selected I as loadable modules except
for the filesystems, paralell and serial ports , keyboard cd and floppy
drive.
then i saved my cnages.
then i typed make dep.
i got a message saying that it was nothing to be done with dep.
then i typed make modules and make modules_install.
and that worked.
then i tried two ways.
first of all i tried to make a bzImage.
and it ended upp with that my kernel was too big to fit on a floppy drive.
for some reason iI don't have a /usr/src/linux directory.
why do you think i don't have one?
then i searched a bit and found the linux kernel in t the arch/i386/boot
subdirectory of the kernel source.
i copied the bzImage to my loadlin directory and tried to load linux wiht
the command i always use.
but the system didn't boot.
I thought that this was a bz image and my system had trouble with booting
such ones so i tried to make a zimage install.
but i got the message that my system was too big.
and i should try modules or a bzImage.
iI don't believe  that I have compiled a real kernel.
i have also tried the samme with the make oldconfig but with no sucsess.
what is wrong with my kernel compilation?


thanks in advance

kristoffer

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 > make clean

It is usually best to do make mrproper
which is a more extensive clean

But it will delete your .config so if
you want to keep it, copy it elsewhere
then copy it back in.

If you want to compile a kernel using
an old .config file, you can do a
make oldconfig

So let's say you grab a kernel from
ftp.kernel.org. I always do this:

make mrproper
make config
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

If you save your .config file and want
to a completely fresh compile, do

make mrproper

copy the .config to /usr/src/linux

make oldconfig
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install


   -- Doug


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