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[209.147.138.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u79sm1461771pfi.186.2018.02.27.11.12.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:12:07 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:12:06 -0700 References: To: blinux-list@redhat.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:12:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:12:09 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'74.125.83.47' DOMAIN:'mail-pg0-f47.google.com' HELO:'mail-pg0-f47.google.com' FROM:'bryan0731@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0.14 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS) 74.125.83.47 mail-pg0-f47.google.com 74.125.83.47 mail-pg0-f47.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.26 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.12 From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:12:13 -0000 Hello Kathy, I will admittedly confess that I too have asked these same types of = questions recently on this list. I understand there are a lot of Linux = users who rely on assistive technology to interact with their system but = for me Orca was not working as expected. I am a PhD research student and = I do a lot with embedded systems, several different programming = languages, and shell commands. I recently was required to use Ubuntu = 16.04 to develop, run, and test a program. I went out and purchased a = new HP laptop to install Ubuntu on but once I did I ran into a lot of = technical difficulties when using Orca. There were some things Orca was = not reading, other things where Orca would stop talking, and still other = things which I was unable to determine if Orca was the problem. As a = result I simply spun up an AWS instance running Ubuntu 16.04 and I use = my Mac terminal to ssh into my Ubuntu box. I was able to develop, run = and test my software with no problem at all. I will also admit that I do = not use Windows much at all if I can help it but if necessary I will use = it for a given task.=20 Here is my opinion and it is only my opinion I am sure others here can = provide a very different opinion. I use Mac due to its high quality = screen reader, easy to use interface, and access to Unix terminal. I = would love to say I use Linux because I do but at this current moment I = only use it on the cloud virtually. Maybe that is the same thing in = retrospect. I can use all three operating systems with different screen = readers because I want to make sure I am versatile and able to use = whatever is necessary for me to solve the problem at hand. Since you = have done your job for 20 years or so you know best what you will = require to continue performing that job. I can say that everything you = described can be done using a Mac with built in tools. Hope this helps.=20= Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student IGERT Fellow Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT) Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab) National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President Phone: 480-652-3045 > On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Linux for blind general discussion = wrote: >=20 > Kathy