* help please
@ Vitor Oliveira
` 'Georgina'
` Jude DaShiell
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Vitor Oliveira @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
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I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose this kind of questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using linux for the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system instalation, not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, and what about graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.
Deus criou o Labrador,
o homem chamou-lhe cão!
Vitor Manuel dos Santos Oliveira
E-MAIL: vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt
HOTMAIL: vimasol@hotmail.com
MÓVEL (MOBILE): 933302848
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* Re: help please
help please Vitor Oliveira
@ ` 'Georgina'
` Vitor Oliveira
` Jude DaShiell
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Hi
I guess someone has already answered your questions. But in short, GUI
access isn't available to us until later this year when Gnome 2 is
released. You'll need a hardware synthesiser if you wish to use
speakup. Alternatively, you could use Emacspeak and Via Voice.
http://linux-speakup.org
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html
Gena
Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
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>I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose this kind of =
>questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using linux =
>for the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
>instalation, not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, =
>and what about graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.
>
>
>Deus criou o Labrador,
>o homem chamou-lhe c=E3o!
>Vitor Manuel dos Santos Oliveira
>E-MAIL: vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt
>HOTMAIL: vimasol@hotmail.com
>M=D3VEL (MOBILE): 933302848
>
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><DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose =
>this kind=20
>of questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using =
>linux for=20
>the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
>instalation,=20
>not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, and what =
>about=20
>graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deus criou o Labrador,<BR>o homem chamou-lhe =
>c=E3o!<BR>Vitor=20
>Manuel dos Santos Oliveira<BR>E-MAIL: <A=20
>href=3D"mailto:vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt">vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt</A><B=
>R>HOTMAIL:=20
><A =
>href=3D"mailto:vimasol@hotmail.com">vimasol@hotmail.com</A><BR>M=D3VEL =
>(MOBILE):=20
>933302848<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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* Re: help please
` 'Georgina'
@ ` Vitor Oliveira
` 'Georgina'
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Vitor Oliveira @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
many thanks. I'm very encouraged start using linux. But unfortunately, I
don't know how, many douts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "'Georgina'" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: help please
> Hi
>
> I guess someone has already answered your questions. But in short, GUI
> access isn't available to us until later this year when Gnome 2 is
> released. You'll need a hardware synthesiser if you wish to use
> speakup. Alternatively, you could use Emacspeak and Via Voice.
>
> http://linux-speakup.org
> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html
>
> Gena
>
>
>
> Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
>
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose this kind of =
> >questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using linux
=
> >for the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
> >instalation, not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, =
> >and what about graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >Deus criou o Labrador,
> >o homem chamou-lhe c=E3o!
> >Vitor Manuel dos Santos Oliveira
> >E-MAIL: vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt
> >HOTMAIL: vimasol@hotmail.com
> >M=D3VEL (MOBILE): 933302848
> >
> >
> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
> >Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose
=
> >this kind=20
> >of questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using =
> >linux for=20
> >the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
> >instalation,=20
> >not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, and what =
> >about=20
> >graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deus criou o Labrador,<BR>o homem chamou-lhe =
> >c=E3o!<BR>Vitor=20
> >Manuel dos Santos Oliveira<BR>E-MAIL: <A=20
>
>href=3D"mailto:vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt">vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt</A><B=
> >R>HOTMAIL:=20
> ><A =
> >href=3D"mailto:vimasol@hotmail.com">vimasol@hotmail.com</A><BR>M=D3VEL =
> >(MOBILE):=20
> >933302848<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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* Re: help please
` Vitor Oliveira
@ ` 'Georgina'
` Vitor Oliveira
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Hi
Well I given you 2 URL's to follow and if you have one of the supported
synthesisers required for speakup will determine which reading you do.
You can also read about the 3 distributions that can be downloaded with
speakup all ready compiled in from the following:
www.debian.org
www.redhat.com
www.slackware.com
Hopefully I've given you enough pointers to get you started. I can't
tell you what to do, its your job to read and choose based upon what
resources you have available to you.
Gena
Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
>many thanks. I'm very encouraged start using linux. But unfortunately, I
>don't know how, many douts.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "'Georgina'" <gena@gena-j.net>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:04 AM
>Subject: Re: help please
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I guess someone has already answered your questions. But in short, GUI
>> access isn't available to us until later this year when Gnome 2 is
>> released. You'll need a hardware synthesiser if you wish to use
>> speakup. Alternatively, you could use Emacspeak and Via Voice.
>>
>> http://linux-speakup.org
>> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html
>>
>> Gena
>>
>>
>>
>> Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
>>
>> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> >
>> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
>> >Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> >I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose this kind of =
>> >questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using linux
>=
>> >for the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
>> >instalation, not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, =
>> >and what about graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >
>> >Deus criou o Labrador,
>> >o homem chamou-lhe c=E3o!
>> >Vitor Manuel dos Santos Oliveira
>> >E-MAIL: vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt
>> >HOTMAIL: vimasol@hotmail.com
>> >M=D3VEL (MOBILE): 933302848
>> >
>> >
>> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
>> >Content-Type: text/html;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose
>=
>> >this kind=20
>> >of questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using =
>> >linux for=20
>> >the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
>> >instalation,=20
>> >not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, and what =
>> >about=20
>> >graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deus criou o Labrador,<BR>o homem chamou-lhe =
>> >c=E3o!<BR>Vitor=20
>> >Manuel dos Santos Oliveira<BR>E-MAIL: <A=20
>>
>>href=3D"mailto:vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt">vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt</A><B=
>> >R>HOTMAIL:=20
>> ><A =
>> >href=3D"mailto:vimasol@hotmail.com">vimasol@hotmail.com</A><BR>M=D3VEL =
>> >(MOBILE):=20
>> >933302848<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Blinux-list mailing list
>> >Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>>
>>
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* Re: help please
` 'Georgina'
@ ` Vitor Oliveira
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Vitor Oliveira @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Ok, many thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "'Georgina'" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: help please
> Hi
>
> Well I given you 2 URL's to follow and if you have one of the supported
> synthesisers required for speakup will determine which reading you do.
>
> You can also read about the 3 distributions that can be downloaded with
> speakup all ready compiled in from the following:
>
> www.debian.org
> www.redhat.com
> www.slackware.com
>
> Hopefully I've given you enough pointers to get you started. I can't
> tell you what to do, its your job to read and choose based upon what
> resources you have available to you.
>
> Gena
>
>
>
> Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
>
> >many thanks. I'm very encouraged start using linux. But unfortunately, I
> >don't know how, many douts.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "'Georgina'" <gena@gena-j.net>
> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: help please
> >
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I guess someone has already answered your questions. But in short, GUI
> >> access isn't available to us until later this year when Gnome 2 is
> >> released. You'll need a hardware synthesiser if you wish to use
> >> speakup. Alternatively, you could use Emacspeak and Via Voice.
> >>
> >> http://linux-speakup.org
> >> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/emacspeak/emacspeak.html
> >>
> >> Gena
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
> >>
> >> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >> >
> >> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
> >> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> >> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >> >
> >> >I don't know if this is the apropriate place to pose this kind of =
> >> >questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using
linux
> >=
> >> >for the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real
system =
> >> >instalation, not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I
use, =
> >> >and what about graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Deus criou o Labrador,
> >> >o homem chamou-lhe c=E3o!
> >> >Vitor Manuel dos Santos Oliveira
> >> >E-MAIL: vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt
> >> >HOTMAIL: vimasol@hotmail.com
> >> >M=D3VEL (MOBILE): 933302848
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530
> >> >Content-Type: text/html;
> >> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >> >
> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> ><HTML><HEAD>
> >> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> >> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> >> ></HEAD>
> >> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't know if this is the apropriate place to
pose
> >=
> >> >this kind=20
> >> >of questions, but I'd like to know what must I install to start using
=
> >> >linux for=20
> >> >the first time? Is it possible to do it alone? I mean a real system =
> >> >instalation,=20
> >> >not under windows or msdos. What screen reader must I use, and what =
> >> >about=20
> >> >graphics, for example gnoom or kde? Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deus criou o Labrador,<BR>o homem chamou-lhe =
> >> >c=E3o!<BR>Vitor=20
> >> >Manuel dos Santos Oliveira<BR>E-MAIL: <A=20
> >>
>
>>href=3D"mailto:vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt">vitor.oliveira@netcabo.pt</A><B=
> >> >R>HOTMAIL:=20
> >> ><A =
> >> >href=3D"mailto:vimasol@hotmail.com">vimasol@hotmail.com</A><BR>M=D3VEL
=
> >> >(MOBILE):=20
> >> >933302848<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >> >
> >> >------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C1F858.0DF36530--
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >_______________________________________________
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> >> >Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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* Re: help please
help please Vitor Oliveira
` 'Georgina'
@ ` Jude DaShiell
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
That's best done with sighted assistance at least someone that's not
afraid to read the screen for you the first time. You do well to take
notes about questions asked and answers supplied, if you install redhat
those questions and answers can come in useful later. If you don't
install enigma redhat you might be able to get speakup running on your
system or emacspeak. Graphics? They're not accessible and won't start to
be until maybe the end of 2002 in gnome. Even so, the best time to
install a screen reader for a graphics system is never. As a fall back
position, wait 10 years after the first claim of accessibility is made.
That way, you won't be left hanging off the bleeding edge.
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* Re: help please
` Jude DaShiell
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Jude DaShiell
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Ten years? Heck, Jude, shall I install asap or vocal-eyes on my brand new
DOS 3.31 computer?
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> That's best done with sighted assistance at least someone that's not
> afraid to read the screen for you the first time. You do well to take
> notes about questions asked and answers supplied, if you install redhat
> those questions and answers can come in useful later. If you don't
> install enigma redhat you might be able to get speakup running on your
> system or emacspeak. Graphics? They're not accessible and won't start to
> be until maybe the end of 2002 in gnome. Even so, the best time to
> install a screen reader for a graphics system is never. As a fall back
> position, wait 10 years after the first claim of accessibility is made.
> That way, you won't be left hanging off the bleeding edge.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
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* Re: help please
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Jude DaShiell
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
Well, I suppose I've been working in a production environment for a bit
too long. In that kind of environment it doesn't pay to try something and
then find out you have something on the screen three days later which
needed to be answered with yes rather than y and you didn't know that
because the documentation no longer matched the actual software output or
you hadn't been able to get into the documentation because that was on the
disk too which still isn't installed. If someone had a project due in
part of that time, that's a great way to get unemployed real fast and for
cause at that. Whenever I've done dos installations in my more recent
years I've tried to always have a talking installation disk and computer.
With windows 98 that didn't work. Part of why Microsoft put windows
narrator into windows 2000 was because of the problems I had installing
win 98 at first. After awhile I got so much practice installing win 98 I
could do it far easier. I haven't tried installing windows 2000 with
narrator but a side benefit narrator has made possible was for nmci, our
organization hasn't yet been able to get any of the professional screen
readers through pop-in-the-box testing so the only way to have a talking
nmci computer is by using windows narrator. I understand much of the
other section 508 hardware and software is similarly held up too.
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* Re: help please
` Jude DaShiell
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: blinux-list
I don't understand why inaccessible installation holds up any hw or sw
under 508. The only way that could come under 508 is if there is an
accessible option, and then the installed system still has to get
evaluated against the competition. As we both know, machines spend more
time working than getting installed.
As for deploying Win--or anything else, I used to use Ghost (before Norton
bought it). Nowadays, I just use Linux and dd. Cheaper, more reliable, and
much more accessible--and it works like a charm.
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Jude
DaShiell wrote:
> Well, I suppose I've been working in a production environment for a bit
> too long. In that kind of environment it doesn't pay to try something and
> then find out you have something on the screen three days later which
> needed to be answered with yes rather than y and you didn't know that
> because the documentation no longer matched the actual software output or
> you hadn't been able to get into the documentation because that was on the
> disk too which still isn't installed. If someone had a project due in
> part of that time, that's a great way to get unemployed real fast and for
> cause at that. Whenever I've done dos installations in my more recent
> years I've tried to always have a talking installation disk and computer.
> With windows 98 that didn't work. Part of why Microsoft put windows
> narrator into windows 2000 was because of the problems I had installing
> win 98 at first. After awhile I got so much practice installing win 98 I
> could do it far easier. I haven't tried installing windows 2000 with
> narrator but a side benefit narrator has made possible was for nmci, our
> organization hasn't yet been able to get any of the professional screen
> readers through pop-in-the-box testing so the only way to have a talking
> nmci computer is by using windows narrator. I understand much of the
> other section 508 hardware and software is similarly held up too.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
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