From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wBFH757g001150 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 12:07:05 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 6344D18A75; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C5518A70 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi1-f177.google.com (mail-oi1-f177.google.com [209.85.167.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B347C0495BF for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi1-f177.google.com with SMTP id a77so7091432oii.5 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:07:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=v3iuzhmOAvXoxNfzBEHDl3IzBqhEpdQWloROzBbwuds=; b=kfmg7n21GS/OaqwivzEX41oL/aBgNPPY74x3wSW2uPXgHBHeYo9SRS8MO1dwQfmmA4 qoMVe0eMvhvaFpBVfdsTBkLRb//QFSkHm9x1ikLj88Z33ixVlA+veQzyZAaf2eTDSQcM ac9DcE8CpEyWDQ2p3IlzVLz+rYWWkjO3R2SQwJ1wbyRj02GcClgIzrkyBAq4B+jFJN3p eQGinmCWJRcv/eOOOEFwplJEELKd0nKr4IzBU9AvH/u2hkaRBzGrXEEcRBRCgzmpt4Ap 3Y9pQA+MpV6BnG6xqHuoZwYAviz3N1ywMbBPlq8yDe5bYP0Trmc4Ilb6yxLruMQdRJI7 WRRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=v3iuzhmOAvXoxNfzBEHDl3IzBqhEpdQWloROzBbwuds=; b=U4WOOb66F3aFzWZslY/2zT5URizMypDvSiMR573gVISKC4NNf1Cv7kwvsWqght9Urw HHw7TcdKXCZVuVIJbq8PlgfqWrW22yBIyUWB4v6rY29PvkIKepgu/KW0+OVi8+GWFLWi vcNHcFGZip+OyypaGGAdY8HrDEHj5lNH26BEXGFrQ/lqNNJdnMDU4QAxX2trwDr8nsGo VtX+m5N7w1zZn+xldMMNPgq/kCzi4y0/9YbK0wl0pKZYD3L4crM3/Ay+CojEqp0Dy87K mZOLcaHZ2CKKhwbwX4qJnuV1n4yR0i4KrHT15K0D558wsrsFxQ6rhTI40fwaL7d0aaUy iaSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYPnxiwvu/4ziITmqVytizETaT+JvVwkJT8gdCzSBQyVgCVEJG5 W0k4XzXBkoTObuPArw0klb0mdUerS64MKpab53cx/Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VG9XnG5Yz0QoRmoYE1UDhGeZC8YrKLS3Ki0PeYLmGjxf1zCHifuArybZB/jPxJjC3kzbmD8VaTmK1dlX7egYo= X-Received: by 2002:aca:a897:: with SMTP id r145mr1792905oie.253.1544893619088; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:06:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6830:2158:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:06:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <35877387-093D-412D-82BE-591E89A206D7@icloud.com> References: <2282C41C-FEE4-4A7A-BFE3-7D97A53306F0@icloud.com> <66D04849-034B-4664-BAC2-7880990BBE73@icloud.com> <001301d49482$16943ce0$43bcb6a0$@yandex.com> <35877387-093D-412D-82BE-591E89A206D7@icloud.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:06:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Newbie to linux and a question To: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.167.177' DOMAIN:'mail-oi1-f177.google.com' HELO:'mail-oi1-f177.google.com' FROM:'mewtamer@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.111 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS) 209.85.167.177 mail-oi1-f177.google.com 209.85.167.177 mail-oi1-f177.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.31 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:07:05 -0000 Okay, let me back up a bit. Knoppix is a Live Distribution developed by Klaus Knopper based on Debian. As a live distribution, it is designed primarily to be run from a DVD or USB flash drive, though it can be installed to a hard drive, though this isn't generally recommended and its installer is a bit quick and dirty compared to distributions actually intended to be installed to a hard drive. Adriane(full name: Audio Desktop resource implemntation and networking environment) is an accessibility suite bundled with Knoppix. By default, a Knoppix DVD will boot to a desktop environment, but if the right command is issued at the DVd's boot prompt, it will instead boot in Adriane mode. When booted in Adriane mode, the sbl text-mode screen reader is started automatically and the user is presented with a menu. Most of the menu options are for common computing tasks such as browsing the web, checking e-mail, editing documents, playing media files, or file management, and most of the menu options will invoke an appropriate text-mode application or serve as a front end to such. There's also an option that will drop you down to the command line and a Graphical Programs option that will give you a choice between launching Firefox with Orca, LibreOffice with Orca, or a full desktop environment with Orca. There use to be three official flavors of Knoppix, each available in both an English version and a German version: Knoppix Cd, Adriane CD, and Knoppix DVD. Knoppix CD booted to a graphical desktop by default, included only the default desktop environment, and fit on a CD. Adriane CD was identical to Knoppix CD, but booted into Adriane by default. Knoppix DVD included the option to boot with a 64-bit kernel, booting into alternate desktop environments, and bundled as much software as could fit on a DVD, but had the same default boot options as the Knoppix CD. At some point, Klaus Knopper got to a point where trimming things down for the CD release took too much time nad effort, and now, the only official Knoppix images are the Enlgish and German versions of the DVd. Again, booting to Adriane is still possible, though the Knoppix boot prompt isn't accessible, which prompted me to learn how to modify the DVD iso to make it boot into Adriane by default. If I'm not mistaken, Adriane utilizes the following text-mode applications for its various components: web browser: elinks. e-mail client: mutt OCR: Tesseract File Management: Midnight Commander Media player: mplayer2 or mpv(both are forks of mplayer) text editing: nano. Text-mode screen reader: sbl Graphical Web browser: Firefox Graphical Office Suite: LibreOffice Graphical screen reader: Orca. Admittedly, I don't really use Adriane much myself, but then again, I've been immersed in the command line for years, and the only reasons I haven't switched back to vanilla Debian is because I prefer SBL to espeakup(the default text-mode screen reader in Debian), sbl isn't available in Debian's apt repositories, and I haven't figured out how to replicate Adriane's ability to launch Firefox and Orca without launching a full desktop environment under Debian. Still, Adriane seems like a good way for someone who's blind and new to Linux to get things done without having to constantly fight with the GUI or needing to jump into the deep end with the command line. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright Bachelor of Computer Science President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.