From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wBFDp3B8032704 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:51:03 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id D5B8B5C26A; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C83745C1B2 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ot1-f50.google.com (mail-ot1-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 727AEC058CBC for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ot1-f50.google.com with SMTP id n8so8166856otl.6 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 05:50:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PXlljedubr+zo7KwOy7HsnjSAisWnTwuY4hWlZnAFaY=; b=DwpmH/mm58GPXhqfNzQGmQN6fFGeP6lmnRY2ViAV9ou+FQtD4C19nFDCxM4Ug1EJBw OYddGRrTjrVC3dOuLThZC6l7OFlt1fLzazyilL0yW0h7jssGMjVusmYFgCjseCV9RVBd U/gg/CXNRhwt80Wco1SkRV2AYafAeBmsV+sEIFzU5JNeAydIugu4k88kuzV26849fW+1 kP22/UbtqK1nErfq/9BVivJM1PCMSTMqA77SgXzVb2pMVtLT2nvejQNgwNAH8Lyap6S+ ktzw7/CUb4Ekdr3W8uoaCeLN/rqatCR48de79umiceXB0x90tUQdVFn9nBRZxtCcofO3 bnoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=PXlljedubr+zo7KwOy7HsnjSAisWnTwuY4hWlZnAFaY=; b=aFJZj24LINeAKinJE/4IOLeUXfi8sPfNszWYhtq4Td55oMUZ7DZb5g5OeffDzZW3q5 +o1rwzBC92A70TuP27VL0T9rnh3m5YFB8JPWtKhzCdUXCjjF3ATlhu7w3o6l7nrea9bf az7wBsATJVdduvsNkI7DERACDe30xTvVnNqeHmEb4fXnxWCvcMR1oUJp9pnU74DUupxL EcbkFqqrRA06FI9c7ZH42lOuAXPEw7U/J/o02NHsrT7OkrABGsKZVOAkLcMapx5f1xFx pkCQWpx+PeidxuvO0s3erPoh+13EZ67FgouRKVX7Q7lCQvBUt0vxdq7kshB+ZSwQciDa 7cJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbV8jY4WVCmL0MPt6KlqdfUO1KiOBVaeLGKjS0KVOC3WZFsC96Y +dU3gSGgjrmGDD9tVXsGVSzv5cIUhjrmlELRLzcNIg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/X7dFoIME7nX4Sm2UoHinau67+i82ff1kCpVnYkYAXAOa4G9AqheHTsueXhJQHslUM9+T7P79jI1/i0o4RMoIw= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:60b:: with SMTP id 11mr4615128otn.200.1544881858470; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 05:50:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6830:2158:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 05:50:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1be91b7b-f1f7-7979-5476-393da97e3d87@slint.fr> References: <2282C41C-FEE4-4A7A-BFE3-7D97A53306F0@icloud.com> <20181215115220.620b6501@telaviv1.shlomifish.org> <39dffb42-cecd-a57a-bda8-e385283ca1e5@gmail.com> <20181215.123343.486.11@192.168.1.146> <1be91b7b-f1f7-7979-5476-393da97e3d87@slint.fr> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Newbie to linux and a question To: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.210.50' DOMAIN:'mail-ot1-f50.google.com' HELO:'mail-ot1-f50.google.com' FROM:'mewtamer@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.111 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS) 209.85.210.50 mail-ot1-f50.google.com 209.85.210.50 mail-ot1-f50.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.32 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 13:51:04 -0000 I also wouldn't recommend a source distribution to a newbie. Hell, I've been a full-time Linux user for over a decade, source most of my system from Debian Unstable along with most of the available upgrades from experimental, have done some rather hackerish things to my own system, and Gentoo is ground I wouldn't dare to tread even if my vision was miraculously restored. Yes, compiling from source is much easier now than it was back when I first tried Linux in the days when Fedora was new and Ubuntu didn't exist yet, back in the days when compiling from source was the main way of adding additional software beyond what was bundled on the install CD, but I'd argue it should be the option of last resort for most users these days. Oh, and something I forgot to mention, if you use dpkg to manually install a .deb, it will let you know if you are missing dependencies. Sadly, I know of no means to have apt automatically download and install the dependencies needed for a .deb you want to install manually, but you can use the list dpkg prints to the screen as a basis for what to tell apt to install. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright Bachelor of Computer Science President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.