Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Okay, so I recently torrented and burned the amd64 version of Debian
9.5 CD1 and used the talking installer to install it to my backup
machine. The network setup step asked for some firmware files that I
have no idea how to obtain or make accessible to the installer, so I
skip loading the firmware, but setting up my Wi-Fi connection for use
by the installer went through with no error messages, and the install
finished successfully, I rebooted, and I have a working Debian system
that comes up talking, gives me a text log-in and dumps me at the
console upon login.

Apparently, Debian doesn't consider sudo or aptitude basic system
utilities, but I thought, no problem, I'll use su to switch to a root
console and use apt to install them.

Here's where I ran into trouble. Both apt update and apt install can't
connect. Some digging reveals that the installer neither put my
ethernet or wi-fi connections in my /etc/network/interfaces file.
Tried copying over copies of my interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf
that were working to let the tower in question connect either wired or
wirelessly under the install of Knoppix 8.1 that was on the machine
prior to installing Debian 9.5, but to no avail.

So, any suggestions on how to get my talking debian machine connected
to the internet so I can start installing stuff not installed by the
installer?

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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as root, please run nmtui and activate the connection of your choice.
Before doing that, please examine /etc/resolv.conf to see if
network-manager was used to do your network setup so far as it was done.
 If yes, nmtui should be on your machine.  You use the up and down
arrows and enter to make selections in nmtui.  Once you activate the
connection quit nmtui and then run a ping test for your network.  I
think ping -a -c 5 www.google.com should get you unknown connection or
about five lines with packet information on them.  In the latter case,
you have a working network connection.  I hope this helps, this stuff
got covered over on debian-user a little while ago.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:27:33
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.
>
> Okay, so I recently torrented and burned the amd64 version of Debian
> 9.5 CD1 and used the talking installer to install it to my backup
> machine. The network setup step asked for some firmware files that I
> have no idea how to obtain or make accessible to the installer, so I
> skip loading the firmware, but setting up my Wi-Fi connection for use
> by the installer went through with no error messages, and the install
> finished successfully, I rebooted, and I have a working Debian system
> that comes up talking, gives me a text log-in and dumps me at the
> console upon login.
>
> Apparently, Debian doesn't consider sudo or aptitude basic system
> utilities, but I thought, no problem, I'll use su to switch to a root
> console and use apt to install them.
>
> Here's where I ran into trouble. Both apt update and apt install can't
> connect. Some digging reveals that the installer neither put my
> ethernet or wi-fi connections in my /etc/network/interfaces file.
> Tried copying over copies of my interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf
> that were working to let the tower in question connect either wired or
> wirelessly under the install of Knoppix 8.1 that was on the machine
> prior to installing Debian 9.5, but to no avail.
>
> So, any suggestions on how to get my talking debian machine connected
> to the internet so I can start installing stuff not installed by the
> installer?
>
>

-- 

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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There's an issue with Debian mate that don't occur on Debian Lxde for
example, network-manager need a change in the configuration file for old
wireless devices, you could use wicd instead of network-manager and it will
work, a tip use a wireless repeater and wire the computer to it for easier
netinstall, after you will have time to fix wireless issues easily.

Michaël Caron Couturier


Le ven. 14 sept. 2018, à 21 h 10, Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> a écrit :

> as root, please run nmtui and activate the connection of your choice.
> Before doing that, please examine /etc/resolv.conf to see if
> network-manager was used to do your network setup so far as it was done.
>  If yes, nmtui should be on your machine.  You use the up and down
> arrows and enter to make selections in nmtui.  Once you activate the
> connection quit nmtui and then run a ping test for your network.  I
> think ping -a -c 5 www.google.com should get you unknown connection or
> about five lines with packet information on them.  In the latter case,
> you have a working network connection.  I hope this helps, this stuff
> got covered over on debian-user a little while ago.
>
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:27:33
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.
> >
> > Okay, so I recently torrented and burned the amd64 version of Debian
> > 9.5 CD1 and used the talking installer to install it to my backup
> > machine. The network setup step asked for some firmware files that I
> > have no idea how to obtain or make accessible to the installer, so I
> > skip loading the firmware, but setting up my Wi-Fi connection for use
> > by the installer went through with no error messages, and the install
> > finished successfully, I rebooted, and I have a working Debian system
> > that comes up talking, gives me a text log-in and dumps me at the
> > console upon login.
> >
> > Apparently, Debian doesn't consider sudo or aptitude basic system
> > utilities, but I thought, no problem, I'll use su to switch to a root
> > console and use apt to install them.
> >
> > Here's where I ran into trouble. Both apt update and apt install can't
> > connect. Some digging reveals that the installer neither put my
> > ethernet or wi-fi connections in my /etc/network/interfaces file.
> > Tried copying over copies of my interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf
> > that were working to let the tower in question connect either wired or
> > wirelessly under the install of Knoppix 8.1 that was on the machine
> > prior to installing Debian 9.5, but to no avail.
> >
> > So, any suggestions on how to get my talking debian machine connected
> > to the internet so I can start installing stuff not installed by the
> > installer?
> >
> >
>
> --
>
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Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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To clarify a few things:

1. I downloaded(via ctorrent and burned the following file:

debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso

2. When I got to the install additional software step, I did not
select to install any of the half dozen or so desktop environments
offered.

When I tried running nmtui and wicd on the machine with the connection
issues, I found that neither was installed.

Here is some output from ifup -a:

Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.3.5
Copyright 2004-2016 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Cannot find device "eth0"
Failed to get interface index: No such device

If you think you have received this message due to a bug rather
than a configuration issue please read the section on submitting
bugs on either our web page at www.isc.org or in the README file
before submitting a bug.  These pages explain the proper
process and the information we find helpful for debugging..

exiting.
ifup: failed to bring up eth0
Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
Could not read interface wlan0 flags: No such device
nl80211: Driver does not support authentication/association or connect commands
nl80211: deinit ifname=wlan0 disabled_11b_rates=0
Could not read interface wlan0 flags: No such device
wlan0: Failed to initialize driver interface
ifup: failed to bring up wlan0

Also, how do I get apt to use the repository on the CD if I need to
install something to get the internet up and running?

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

[Linux for blind general discussion]

What is in /etc/resolv.conf?

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:57:50
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.
>
> To clarify a few things:
>
> 1. I downloaded(via ctorrent and burned the following file:
>
> debian-9.5.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso
>
> 2. When I got to the install additional software step, I did not
> select to install any of the half dozen or so desktop environments
> offered.
>
> When I tried running nmtui and wicd on the machine with the connection
> issues, I found that neither was installed.
>
> Here is some output from ifup -a:
>
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.3.5
> Copyright 2004-2016 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Cannot find device "eth0"
> Failed to get interface index: No such device
>
> If you think you have received this message due to a bug rather
> than a configuration issue please read the section on submitting
> bugs on either our web page at www.isc.org or in the README file
> before submitting a bug.  These pages explain the proper
> process and the information we find helpful for debugging..
>
> exiting.
> ifup: failed to bring up eth0
> Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
> Could not read interface wlan0 flags: No such device
> nl80211: Driver does not support authentication/association or connect commands
> nl80211: deinit ifname=wlan0 disabled_11b_rates=0
> Could not read interface wlan0 flags: No such device
> wlan0: Failed to initialize driver interface
> ifup: failed to bring up wlan0
>
> Also, how do I get apt to use the repository on the CD if I need to
> install something to get the internet up and running?
>
>

-- 

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hello, since you were relabeled apparently to install a talking version 
ofDbeenn  Lenox, do you have any possible plans to potentially put this 
together and make it a talking bistro? Because I am looking for a 
version of Linux that I can use in a virtual machine that does talk? 
And/or has braille TTY output. The reason for the virtual machine it’s 
because unwillingness on a MacBook Pro. Thank you all for reading this?

Sincerely, Maurice Mines.

On 14 Sep 2018, at 14:27, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Okay, so I recently torrented and burned the amd64 version of Debian
> 9.5 CD1 and used the talking installer to install it to my backup
> machine. The network setup step asked for some firmware files that I
> have no idea how to obtain or make accessible to the installer, so I
> skip loading the firmware, but setting up my Wi-Fi connection for use
> by the installer went through with no error messages, and the install
> finished successfully, I rebooted, and I have a working Debian system
> that comes up talking, gives me a text log-in and dumps me at the
> console upon login.
>
> Apparently, Debian doesn't consider sudo or aptitude basic system
> utilities, but I thought, no problem, I'll use su to switch to a root
> console and use apt to install them.
>
> Here's where I ran into trouble. Both apt update and apt install can't
> connect. Some digging reveals that the installer neither put my
> ethernet or wi-fi connections in my /etc/network/interfaces file.
> Tried copying over copies of my interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf
> that were working to let the tower in question connect either wired or
> wirelessly under the install of Knoppix 8.1 that was on the machine
> prior to installing Debian 9.5, but to no avail.
>
> So, any suggestions on how to get my talking debian machine connected
> to the internet so I can start installing stuff not installed by the
> installer?
>
> -- 
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffery Wright
> Bachelor of Computer Science
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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Here's the content of /etc/resolve.conf on the machine giving gme problems:

search nc.rr.com
nameserver 209.18.47.61
nameserver 209.18.47.62

comparing it to the resolve.conf on my main machine, which is working,
the biggest difference seems to be that on my main machine, the word
search is replaced by domain and there are a few comments added to the
file.

Also, here's the output of networkctrl on the problem machine:

IDX LINK             TYPE               OPERATIONAL SETUP
  1 lo               loopback           n/a         unmanaged
  2 enp3s0           ether              n/a         unmanaged
  3 wlp2s0           wlan               n/a         unmanaged

3 links listed.


-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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Try the non official iso with firmwares, this one work with most computers
and use a command line install but it allow to add a graphical install
after, Mate is heavily recommanded for thoses who need accessibility :

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/

Michaël Caron Couturier


Le dim. 16 sept. 2018, à 16 h 17, Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@redhat.com> a écrit :

> Here's the content of /etc/resolve.conf on the machine giving gme problems:
>
> search nc.rr.com
> nameserver 209.18.47.61
> nameserver 209.18.47.62
>
> comparing it to the resolve.conf on my main machine, which is working,
> the biggest difference seems to be that on my main machine, the word
> search is replaced by domain and there are a few comments added to the
> file.
>
> Also, here's the output of networkctrl on the problem machine:
>
> IDX LINK             TYPE               OPERATIONAL SETUP
>   1 lo               loopback           n/a         unmanaged
>   2 enp3s0           ether              n/a         unmanaged
>   3 wlp2s0           wlan               n/a         unmanaged
>
> 3 links listed.
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffery Wright
> Bachelor of Computer Science
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

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Okay, your wifi is wlp2s0 and your ethernet is enps30.
If you have the ip program on that machine ip set link followed by one
of those two strings followed by a space and the word up ought to bring
one of them up for you.  After that, you'll want to find a working
example of /etc/network/interfaces and if that file isn't on your
machine create it or if it is on your machine adjust it.

There is another way though.
I wrote some steps that need to be run before doing first boot on an
installation that might help:

Command Debian Wifi setup

Introduction:

If you set up a debian command line system with wifi and need an
internet connection this article will help.

Prepare:

Run a debian install up to finish the installation step but don't
do that step yet.  The installer ought to have downloaded packages
using your existing wifi network connection.  If all of that has
happened
      and you have your ssid and wifi password available you're
ready to do a secure wifi installation.

Wifi Install:

1. Get to debian main menu hit < then hit enter,

2.  A numbered menu should appear so type 23 <enter> <enter>
	to get a shell prompt,

3.  type mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt <enter>

4. type:
	cp /etc/network/interfaces /mnt/etc/network/interfaces.sav
	<enter>

5.  It's time for a new shell so type chroot /mnt /bin/bash <enter>,

6. Type ex /etc/network/interfaces.sav <enter>

7. type p <enter> you should see your original wifi passphrase
	with some text to its left and probably that will be line
	14 so let's fix that, type d <enter> then type x <enter>
	to remove the line and save the file,

8. type wpa_passphrase <essid> <passphrase of wifi network> >file1
<enter>,

9. type ex file1 <enter> we do transforms on this file first,

10. type ?psk <enter> and line 4 should show up,

11. type .,.wfile2 <enter>,

12. type q <enter> type rm file1 <enter>,

13. type ex file2 <enter>,

14. type .,./psk/wpa-psk/ <enter>,

15. type .,./=/ "/ <enter>,

16. type .,.s/$/"/ <enter>,

17. type x <enter>,

18. type ex /etc/network/interfaces.sav <enter>,

19. type r file2 <enter>,

20. type x <enter>,

21. type rm file2 <enter>,
	cp /etc/network/interfaces.sav /etc/network/interfaces then
	reboot,

22. You just patched /etc/network/interfaces.sav so now it's time
to exit
       and finish the installation, so type exit <enter> to leave
	chroot environment,

23. type cd / <enter> type umount /mnt <enter>, type exit <cr>,
and

24. type 19 <enter> to finish debian's idea of an installation.

25. when system reboots and you're logged in, take your privileges
up to root level,

26. type cp /etc/network/interfaces.sav /etc/network/interfaces,

27. reboot system and log in,

28. test network connectivity type ping -a -c 5 www.google.com,
<enter>,

29. If mesages come up on screen about bytes transferred, and you
	hear 5 beeps, you have a connected wifi network with secure
	password.  Prove it type tail -1 /etc/network/interfaces.
	and I don't think you'll be looking at the password you
	keyed in to connect debian to wifi so it could start
	installing your system.
On Sun, 16 Sep
2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 16:17:28
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.
>
> Here's the content of /etc/resolve.conf on the machine giving gme problems:
>
> search nc.rr.com
> nameserver 209.18.47.61
> nameserver 209.18.47.62
>
> comparing it to the resolve.conf on my main machine, which is working,
> the biggest difference seems to be that on my main machine, the word
> search is replaced by domain and there are a few comments added to the
> file.
>
> Also, here's the output of networkctrl on the problem machine:
>
> IDX LINK             TYPE               OPERATIONAL SETUP
>   1 lo               loopback           n/a         unmanaged
>   2 enp3s0           ether              n/a         unmanaged
>   3 wlp2s0           wlan               n/a         unmanaged
>
> 3 links listed.
>
>
>

-- 

Re: Did clean install of Talking Debian, No Internet.

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Okay, copying over my backed up /etc/network/interfaces and
/etc/wpa_supplican/wpa+supllicant.conf and altering the interfaces
file to change wlan0 to wlp2s0 and then running ifup wlp2s0 got my
wi-fi working on the test machine. I'm going to install a few
essentials, copy over a few other config files from back up and reboot
to test things are working properly before creating an initial backup
of the new system's root partition.

Thanks for the help.

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.