From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w1RJimre028984 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:44:48 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id AC63E60BE6; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 954AE60C82 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D4BF25D43 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id u73so4240oie.3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:44:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=JpQsMtdPZ7Ed93/EJzlLD5aQCJeg5OSskv+FO1kl/bQ=; b=FrY0GwB99LESxNA3v0iJH8cOThzvJSgbC1Hit9aHcesdGZoSlE3BbUxDmbqWefzoaX tRmchVkgfkSrHnjECOAOFSv4FLQg9jdc0eSz4xHjx3hY6Yy13uQxJ4hXV+S983QzO6fq qZ2GXfCo0K1v03xTioeUCN09eCCQuuSZyRLcUJ+6FULd+gAysNCn5GXICLI9rdXjXi+t j3+QEVca+0NDlqXRC6uYFoSF2t36HisabEpitH2us9OEMZ/dbXRsNiioytBmWLmIC4sN U4YbOkG3h4GNx5iJGVLy/i8me3RbrdT3n6DJzf+ozyMEKQt1pjT1cgYKOPsm/ndwVAUz LKMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JpQsMtdPZ7Ed93/EJzlLD5aQCJeg5OSskv+FO1kl/bQ=; b=ExoJScHUec5ycMh6GOyfn9PbmHOcyZvL+4OyUrsOzk7muYybxi5i/NGJNI5nPYALNq 4R9LaqqL9KT9fHnPQ+dQNNYgR/Ly7EcwEJSJcYnsZl3NCZ2E9UNXu5XWK3t9QJOYyb8b GXwTVWs5NzbTr69k5awUzVuWxx4vQ+QrH9I+wlBNEZxDbpUWPWv1Sg9hJclnE26whnfc 2ZzJKC4cgHZ7ZsBAZWP9FkPOf+Hym5zO6jKKqzVyBEij6TKb9kAxVEPB5HkjOkRBNE2B fyKWUl9mKkvru/MeYqljzEcc00wK7rJjPiDIkz9/zQWti8tj+F9R+Muo6GySkKRr+pBo Kp4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDTn7GiKP4bvIzXz04w/ysYvyWI4NZTwB18dl2yFW056lqE63Si uke8HqLVk6xbmSzNm//BEzmbD2hvbGg75XUeUHUbvQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELu2VzQmtTDjlXyYDZMwIixKbdtaLbZ1BtYNtNInTgQA9ImCJ7WSDucjFOgNVIaTgjeohUBUnsuaN6H4T5LKGZw= X-Received: by 10.202.49.149 with SMTP id x143mr9258848oix.283.1519760681809; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:44:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.8.245 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:44:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:44:21 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nXb4TDXVXXOvppEbnV-zCaQZ0qc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.218.41' DOMAIN:'mail-oi0-f41.google.com' HELO:'mail-oi0-f41.google.com' FROM:'kathryn.a.k.taylor@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.129 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.218.41 mail-oi0-f41.google.com 209.85.218.41 mail-oi0-f41.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.27 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.12 From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:44:48 -0000 I do plan on trying out ORCA at some point here. Most of our servers are non-physicals, but I can just build a physical Ubuntu system with ORCA on one of my spare physical workstations. Once I'm in a cygwin window on my Windows system, I just ssh from there to other servers. I generally have several command line windows open, ssh'ed to other servers. That isn't the issue. The issue are these X-Windows and Java based tools, many of them don't have command line options to administer. Yeah, you can go edit config files and the like, start and stop them, but if you're trying to troubleshoot the tool from the perspective of the user, or access some admin functions that are only inside the tool graphically, you're kinda stuck. I think that ORCA on a physical Linux system and maybe a Mac will be my best options to try. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Linux for blind general discussion < blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote: > Why not just ssh into your Linux servers from a Linux terminal? Its ssh > capability is far better than anything you can get from a Windows app using > their lackluster screen readers. > > Java apps use the java-atk-bridge to work with Orca, but that's only if > you require graphical tools. If not, you can do that from a text terminal > as well. That just leaves the Windows servers, and I personally would avoid > those like the plague, especially in a business environment. I can't > recommend anything good for accessing such things. > > Really though, Linux has some of the best accessibility tools around for > sysadmin tasks, so do give it a shot. If you find NVDA usable, you'll LOVE > Orca, as it deals with flat review of the screen rather than NVDA's > constructed object navigation, which is foreign even to a power user like > me. > Imetumwa kutoka kompyuta yangu > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >