* RE: the Papenmeir @ Ian Blackburn ` Brent Harding ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Ian Blackburn @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'blinux-list@redhat.com' good morning list members these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I use braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want one of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be well surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I know for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am going to weight finally I need braile and speech in the same device ======================================================== Standard disclaimer: Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. ======================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* RE: the Papenmeir the Papenmeir Ian Blackburn @ ` Brent Harding ` David Poehlman ` David Poehlman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Brent Harding @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only thing I knew of besides the braille mate. At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: >good morning list members > > these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that >any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the >government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the >blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I use >braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it >more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want one >of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and >also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be well >surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader >something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. > > there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia >and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of >these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I know >for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am >going to weight > > finally I need braile and speech in the same device > > >======================================================== > Standard disclaimer: > Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: > * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility > for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and > * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >======================================================== > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir ` Brent Harding @ ` David Poehlman ` Brent Harding 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list -----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a different question? There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super braille but they are real pricy options. Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: RE: the Papenmeir Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only thing I knew of besides the braille mate. At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: >good morning list members > > these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that >any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the >government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the >blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I use >braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it >more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want one >of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and >also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be well >surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader >something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. > > there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia >and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of >these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I know >for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am >going to weight > > finally I need braile and speech in the same device > > >======================================================== > Standard disclaimer: > Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: > * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility > for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and > * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >======================================================== > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir ` David Poehlman @ ` Brent Harding ` David Poehlman ` philwh 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Brent Harding @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not any more. I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note seems to have more. At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a >different question? > >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super >braille but they are real pricy options. > Original Message ----- >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir > > >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only >thing I >knew of besides the braille mate. >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: >>good morning list members >> >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I >use >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find >it >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want >one >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the >moove and >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be >well >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book >reader >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. >> >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot >of >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I >know >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for >one am >>going to weight >> >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device >> >> >>======================================================== >> Standard disclaimer: >> Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: >> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no >responsibility >> for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and >> * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >>======================================================== >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Blinux-list mailing list >>Blinux-list@redhat.com >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir ` Brent Harding @ ` David Poehlman ` philwh 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list http://www.freedomscientific.com has all the info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: Re: the Papenmeir Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not any more. I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note seems to have more. At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a >different question? > >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super >braille but they are real pricy options. > Original Message ----- >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir > > >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only >thing I >knew of besides the braille mate. >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: >>good morning list members >> >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I >use >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find >it >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want >one >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the >moove and >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be >well >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book >reader >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. >> >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot >of >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I >know >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for >one am >>going to weight >> >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device >> >> >>======================================================== >> Standard disclaimer: >> Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: >> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no >responsibility >> for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and >> * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >>======================================================== >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Blinux-list mailing list >>Blinux-list@redhat.com >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir ` Brent Harding ` David Poehlman @ ` philwh ` Luke Davis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: philwh @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list Hi. the mellennium have both speech and braille, and for the 40 cell model, cost as much or a little more than the elba. and uses a 33mhz processor. phil On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:46:40AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote: > Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not > any more. > I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note > seems to have more. > At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products > >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their > >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a > >different question? > > > >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super > >braille but they are real pricy options. > > Original Message ----- > >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net> > >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM > >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir > > > > > >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak > >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of > >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only > >thing I > >knew of besides the braille mate. > >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote: > >>good morning list members > >> > >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that > >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the > >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the > >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I > >use > >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find > >it > >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want > >one > >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the > >moove and > >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be > >well > >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book > >reader > >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. > >> > >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia > >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot > >of > >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I > >know > >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for > >one am > >>going to weight > >> > >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device > >> > >> > >>======================================================== > >> Standard disclaimer: > >> Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: > >> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no > >responsibility > >> for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and > >> * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. > >>======================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Blinux-list mailing list > >>Blinux-list@redhat.com > >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list mailing list > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir ` philwh @ ` Luke Davis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Luke Davis @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 philwh@gate.net wrote: > and uses a 33mhz processor. You sure that was supposed to be a "33" MHZ processor? When will these people figure out that those things are quite useless for anything modern? Oh, I guess I just answered my own question. Luke ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: the Papenmeir the Papenmeir Ian Blackburn ` Brent Harding @ ` David Poehlman 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: blinux-list the braille note does not justify getting it just because it runs an "ebook reader". I think the pappenmeir solution is the way to go here even though it may be pricy. Robotron: http://www.sensorytools.com has some interesting products and yes, they have a cell and feature it in a braille calculator but it too is pricy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Blackburn" <iblackburn@gesb.wa.gov.au> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: RE: the Papenmeir good morning list members these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I use braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want one of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be well surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I know for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am going to weight finally I need braile and speech in the same device ======================================================== Standard disclaimer: Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. ======================================================== _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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