From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66953F74E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:57:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAE0vop23486 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:57:50 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fAE0voI23562 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:57:50 -0500 Received: from proxyserv.gesb.wa.gov.au (proxyserv.gesb.wa.gov.au [203.55.182.99]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fAE0vmw23554 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:57:49 -0500 Received: from gesb4487.gesb.wa.gov.au (mailhost [203.55.183.20]) by proxyserv.gesb.wa.gov.au (8.9.1/0.0.0) with ESMTP id IAA29920 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:56:01 +0800 (WST) Received: from mercury.gesb (unverified) by gesb4487.gesb.wa.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:02:24 +0800 Received: by mercury with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:57:54 +0800 Message-ID: From: Ian Blackburn To: "'blinux-list@redhat.com'" Subject: RE: the Papenmeir Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:57:53 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: good morning list members these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased. I use braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile. I mostly want one of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and also to be able to read the bible in church etc. I think we might be well surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it. there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions. I know for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am going to weight finally I need braile and speech in the same device ======================================================== Standard disclaimer: Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. ========================================================