RE: the Papenmeir

RE: the Papenmeir

[Ian Blackburn]

good morning list members 

	these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I use
braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it
more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want one
of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and
also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be well
surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader
something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.  

	there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of
these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I know
for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am
going to weight 

	finally I need braile and speech in the same device 


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RE: the Papenmeir

[Brent Harding]

Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak
type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of
silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only thing I
knew of besides the braille mate.
At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote:
>good morning list members 
>
>	these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I use
>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find it
>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want one
>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove and
>also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be well
>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book reader
>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.  
>
>	there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot of
>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I know
>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one am
>going to weight 
>
>	finally I need braile and speech in the same device 
>
>
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Re: the Papenmeir

[David Poehlman]

the braille note does not justify getting it just because it runs an
"ebook reader".  I think the pappenmeir solution is the way to go here
even though it may be pricy.  Robotron:
http://www.sensorytools.com
has some interesting products and yes, they have a cell and feature it
in a braille calculator but it too is pricy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Blackburn" <iblackburn@gesb.wa.gov.au>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: the Papenmeir


good morning list members

these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I use
braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find
it
more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want
one
of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the moove
and
also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be
well
surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book
reader
something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.

there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot
of
these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I
know
for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for one
am
going to weight

finally I need braile and speech in the same device


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Re: the Papenmeir

[David Poehlman]

-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products
called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their
previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a
different question?

There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super
braille but they are real pricy options.
 Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: the Papenmeir


Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak
type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of
silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only
thing I
knew of besides the braille mate.
At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote:
>good morning list members
>
> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I
use
>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find
it
>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want
one
>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the
moove and
>also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be
well
>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book
reader
>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.
>
> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot
of
>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I
know
>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for
one am
>going to weight
>
> finally I need braile and speech in the same device
>
>
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Re: the Papenmeir

[Brent Harding]

Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not
any more.
I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note
seems to have more.
At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products
>called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their
>previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a
>different question?
>
>There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super
>braille but they are real pricy options.
> Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM
>Subject: RE: the Papenmeir
>
>
>Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak
>type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of
>silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only
>thing I
>knew of besides the braille mate.
>At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote:
>>good morning list members
>>
>> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
>>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
>>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
>>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I
>use
>>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find
>it
>>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want
>one
>>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the
>moove and
>>also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be
>well
>>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book
>reader
>>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.
>>
>> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
>>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot
>of
>>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I
>know
>>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for
>one am
>>going to weight
>>
>> finally I need braile and speech in the same device
>>
>>
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>> * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no
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Re: the Papenmeir

[David Poehlman]

http://www.freedomscientific.com
has all the info.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: the Papenmeir


Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not
any more.
I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille
note
seems to have more.
At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products
>called the millennium series which are different in some ways from
their
>previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a
>different question?
>
>There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super
>braille but they are real pricy options.
> Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
>To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM
>Subject: RE: the Papenmeir
>
>
>Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n
speak
>type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of
>silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only
>thing I
>knew of besides the braille mate.
>At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote:
>>good morning list members
>>
>> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
>>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
>>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
>>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I
>use
>>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i
find
>it
>>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want
>one
>>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the
>moove and
>>also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be
>well
>>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book
>reader
>>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.
>>
>> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
>>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a
lot
>of
>>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I
>know
>>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for
>one am
>>going to weight
>>
>> finally I need braile and speech in the same device
>>
>>
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>responsibility
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Re: the Papenmeir

[philwh]

Hi.
the mellennium have both speech and braille, and for the 40 cell model,
cost as much or a little more than the elba.
and uses a 33mhz processor.

phil

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:46:40AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> Are the milleniumm series ones available in voice only models, heard not
> any more.
> I like the idea of the email features and the like, although braille note
> seems to have more.
> At 07:37 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >-----well, freedom scientific is putting out a new line of products
> >called the millennium series which are different in some ways from their
> >previous products and you forget the braille lite or are you asking a
> >different question?
> >
> >There is a laptop called the david and there is a laptop called super
> >braille but they are real pricy options.
> > Original Message -----
> >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
> >To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:44 PM
> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir
> >
> >
> >Is there anything much out besides the braille note and braille 'n speak
> >type products? I heard of braille mate, has 1 cell of braille, kind of
> >silly, but it's there. Before the braille note, blazie was the only
> >thing I
> >knew of besides the braille mate.
> >At 08:57 AM 11/14/01 +0800, you wrote:
> >>good morning list members
> >>
> >> these posts have been very interesting however, I don't think that
> >>any blind person will be able to afford the Papenmeir in Australia the
> >>government does not promote the use of braile devices and nor do the
> >>blindness agancies that advicadvise on equipment to be purchased.  I
> >use
> >>braille and speech speech for quick reading braille for editing. i find
> >it
> >>more accurate and use grade 0 American computer braile.  I mostly want
> >one
> >>of these devices to be able to silently read material while on the
> >moove and
> >>also to be able to read the bible in church etc.  I think we might be
> >well
> >>surved by looking at the braille note from pulsedata it has an e-book
> >reader
> >>something the Papenmeir does not yet have as I read about it.
> >>
> >> there is a company called robatron which is based in South australia
> >>and rumours have it that they make braile cells and that hey sold a lot
> >of
> >>these to some company so lets keep a look out for price reductions.  I
> >know
> >>for a fact that Robatron sold braille cells to some company so I for
> >one am
> >>going to weight
> >>
> >> finally I need braile and speech in the same device
> >>
> >>
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Re: the Papenmeir

[Luke Davis]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 philwh@gate.net wrote:

> and uses a 33mhz processor.

You sure that was supposed to be a "33" MHZ processor?  When will these
people figure out that those things are quite useless for anything modern?
Oh, I guess I just answered my own question.

Luke