From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w210NGOr026949 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:23:16 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 765A65D70B; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx08.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FDCD5D6A3 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-f43.google.com (mail-pg0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77F33C0587C1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 00:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id m19so1616937pgn.1 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=SpnqJUf+pn9rpztNlVeSuquLTcJo+dyWtnfU8O9Blvc=; b=DerAd1T4lHCW8JhIjNGGW1xQ8mJoWoVLgC5NNNp1tuxVFJZIJ5qMp83odhJJMoPwZn GJmgOIsM2eUuCaRkXAiN0YISAWuOAdrXEoMhkv60hCyCPuAPUZH/InmKfvLNX45fmns5 2+YU2NFI8kLNRzfzph+iE0VB8iRNI2tsY/VV1GKxD27jhjF7hh0qDKRgoRtFRPCL6bVq nPA3thZ/r9+0TJvcjh8BSaQO2hyOygoDOR3L9nWbGOmQcpnH8E9U1+1/6dG+3HlLXWbp TpLO+OO2oe9UEC3w+6+ljTArewWAHrwbpKflM1pm3v3gWRLfFbHXRIEZE6dGfLmq0X0I GFOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=SpnqJUf+pn9rpztNlVeSuquLTcJo+dyWtnfU8O9Blvc=; b=Ob72lAgqig2MnpJXr/QZSzaCxqGublF1aQxaDa2PjiZTX1yCem5d5A6FAyVe2l78/U /ysQtnXogqiVlcG7qTHXDuAixoEGkJnOBP5N3bH+FcxL36or1akDxQJPOq16A/dj17X0 WY/N2hhSVwlx55NiKKqNpKLfA8Rj4+cLKRcGzTyvSwuSl3nCiMmx3CZbGhnvx+fJAkde 1EP14lyRrz2mrqaG8JXIswrWkLwB1hzbElvBBzm8LyXNgUCvY3oIZJY6ilIJvZ8NMLbd V2NAZjl64bGC55MKX9ML75GRn2GwVLOAZDYNb5NGBzVpJ+FNodeoTZiPaYt0fz/u81Ws XaBg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCAeLgCcRtTScbkJX76Pry7wIWeOclAj4peFdHQIZK38NPMsveu 65Gc6S+wmvEqtjaBUGuNn2KV0Yb5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225zS6sRddOUh8E+C2O1A1zKf9UD5dX+PbPoVh4MVy6gkto1uch/zHHW+VNjPtq2Eyh7chP+YQ== X-Received: by 10.101.85.67 with SMTP id t3mr15841677pgr.310.1519863791478; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bryans-mbp.mobile.asu.edu ([209.147.148.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b88sm5641028pfd.108.2018.02.28.16.23.10 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:10 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:23:09 -0700 References: <24FDDE40-3794-4520-9874-81EB33496800@icloud.com> To: Linux for blind general discussion In-Reply-To: <24FDDE40-3794-4520-9874-81EB33496800@icloud.com> Message-Id: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 00:23:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.32]); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 00:23:12 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'74.125.83.43' DOMAIN:'mail-pg0-f43.google.com' HELO:'mail-pg0-f43.google.com' FROM:'bryan0731@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0.14 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS) 74.125.83.43 mail-pg0-f43.google.com 74.125.83.43 mail-pg0-f43.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.32 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.12 From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 00:23:16 -0000 -eric, I honestly do not have any special software or configerations to = interact with the Unix console. I have noticed that each person who is = having issues with the Mac terminal have in common. Remember Voiceover = requires that you use the VoiceOver keys to navigate the VoiceOver = cursor. It is similar to the flat review in Linux but uses different = keys. You have to hold down the CTRL + CMD keys to move the cursor. In = addition to these keys you have to make sure you are interacting with = the terminal window. VoiceOver requires that you are "interacting" with = windows for VoiceOver to read the contents of that window. To do this = you press the Shift key + CTRL + CMD + the down arrow. In terms of the = terminal window you would listen for "Shell" and perform the interaction = command. =46rom this point you would use the VoiceOver navigation = commands to move around the stdout including the man pages.=20 To interact with the man pages simply execute the man page you are = interested in then use the above commands to read it. Once you have read = the currently displayed page you would press the space bar to bring up = the next section of the man page. You can tell if there is additional = pages not being displayed because at the bottom there will be a : = displayed letting you know there are more pages to show. To exit the man = pages you would simply type the letter q. I typically will execute this = command to have more control of the man docs and can review them later. $ man grep >> grep.txt I am sure you understand what that is doing but in case someone does not = it is basically redirecting the stdout from the man command to a file = named grep.txt. I then will use vim or cat to read the documentation. = Hope this helps Bryan Duarte | software engineer ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student IGERT Fellow Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT) Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab) National Federation of the Blind of Arizona | Affiliate Board Member National Association of Blind Students | Board Member Arizona Association of Blind Students | President Phone: 480-652-3045 > On Feb 28, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Linux for blind general discussion = wrote: >=20 > -eric