raspberry pi for screen reader users

raspberry pi for screen reader users

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I probably will use walmart app to order what I get.
I think I have all necessary peripherals that were in use before this
system got invented I can attach either by usb or wirelessly.  In addition
to the Pi itself and its power supply what else might be useful to have so
an additional order isn't necessary?  I have a usb keyboard and a
bluetooth keyboard.  I have a 3.5MM jack speaker system and another usb
speaker system and a bluetooth speaker system.  I have a usb hub and have
external memory in terms of a usb hard drive I can attach to the hub.  I
get to the internet with wi-fi and will need to ujse the 5.0 band for that
soon.  The other thing I don't know is if the operating system that comes
with Raspberry Pi's has any screen reader capability available to be
turned on by the correct command or commands.



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Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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The only needed piece of hardware I don't remember being mentioned is
a micro SD card to hold the OS.

Anyways, I would suggest checking out Raspberry Vi, which has a
mailing list whose members could tell you much more than I can
regarding the screen reader options on the Pi and which Pi-compatible
distros are easiest to set up accesibility on.

Also, if you want to run a graphical environment with orca, you'll
probably need an USB sound dongle, which again, the people on
Raspberry Vi could tell you more about that than I can.

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Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.

Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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I passed by someone trying to make a distro for the pi with
accessibility in mind, orca was stated to not work with it, he used
espeak or similar with a less good result, don't expect too much ...

Personnaly I work on a project with Debian but packing the iso and
having a decent accessible installer are what I can't fix alone, the
rest is thinked perfectly and it does more than any accessible distro
of the past and now, sadly I won't release if not fully ready since
it's planned to be a game changer distro, if I don't do it properly it
will be misused, if done well it could change everything...

2018-09-03 14:04 UTC−04:00, Linux for blind general discussion
<blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> I probably will use walmart app to order what I get.
> I think I have all necessary peripherals that were in use before this
> system got invented I can attach either by usb or wirelessly.  In addition
> to the Pi itself and its power supply what else might be useful to have so
> an additional order isn't necessary?  I have a usb keyboard and a
> bluetooth keyboard.  I have a 3.5MM jack speaker system and another usb
> speaker system and a bluetooth speaker system.  I have a usb hub and have
> external memory in terms of a usb hard drive I can attach to the hub.  I
> get to the internet with wi-fi and will need to ujse the 5.0 band for that
> soon.  The other thing I don't know is if the operating system that comes
> with Raspberry Pi's has any screen reader capability available to be
> turned on by the correct command or commands.
>
>
>
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Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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I know I might be going Ot here:  but did we pass this way with a device 
called remix, and screen reader and so on?

I had one and gave it away, couple odd years ago now.

RobH.

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I probably will use walmart app to order what I get.
I think I have all necessary peripherals that were in use before this
system got invented I can attach either by usb or wirelessly.  In addition
to the Pi itself and its power supply what else might be useful to have so
an additional order isn't necessary?  I have a usb keyboard and a
bluetooth keyboard.  I have a 3.5MM jack speaker system and another usb
speaker system and a bluetooth speaker system.  I have a usb hub and have
external memory in terms of a usb hard drive I can attach to the hub.  I
get to the internet with wi-fi and will need to ujse the 5.0 band for that
soon.  The other thing I don't know is if the operating system that comes
with Raspberry Pi's has any screen reader capability available to be
turned on by the correct command or commands.



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Which Raspberry Pi do you have? As far as I know, there are still 3 
versions being sold: The original Raspberry Pi model B, the Pi2 and the 
Pi3, all at the same price. Did you only purchase the computer,or did 
you get it in a kit with an SD card, a case and possibly a reader? The 
Pi3 is the only model with onboard wifi and bluetooth, but its wifi only 
supports the 2.4GHz band. That said, most routers support both 2.4GHz 
and 5.0GHz bands, so the onboard wifi should still work. If you did buy 
your Raspberry Pi in a kit, the OS on the MicroSD will depend on the kit 
you purchased. However, although I believe the kit I have initially had 
Ubuntu, I'm not sure what is on other MicroSD cards. It will be better 
to rewrite it with a different OS. Instructions are available for 
ArchLinuxARM on its website

https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2

which also works on the Raspberry Pi 3. The tarball download includes no 
screen reader, but you can install packages over ssh fairly easily. You 
will probably want the MATE desktop and the Orca screen reader. It runs 
a bit slowly on these machines, because they have fairly slow processors 
and less RAM than other similar machines, but if you get zramswap from 
the AUR, you can add a little swapspace in memory that will speed things 
up a little. If you don't want/like the Arch philosophy or the rolling 
release model, where there is no set timetable for complete OS releases, 
and each package gets upgraded when it is released, I believe there may 
be Ubuntu releases that include Orca as well, although I don't have a 
link at this time. In all cases, you will want to either use your wired 
speakers and mask pulseaudio to keep it disabled, or use your USB 
speakers, as Pulseaudio remains badly broken on the Raspberry Pi's own 
sound hardware.

Imetumwa kutoka maisha

Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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I didn't purchase a raspberry Pi yet, I'm about to take that step.  Your
response has provided a bit more information and I was also told it
would be possible for me to purchase last year's model and all I would
loose would be some input options as a result of not purchasing the
current model.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 15:45:50
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users
>
> Which Raspberry Pi do you have? As far as I know, there are still 3 versions
> being sold: The original Raspberry Pi model B, the Pi2 and the Pi3, all at the
> same price. Did you only purchase the computer,or did you get it in a kit with
> an SD card, a case and possibly a reader? The Pi3 is the only model with
> onboard wifi and bluetooth, but its wifi only supports the 2.4GHz band. That
> said, most routers support both 2.4GHz and 5.0GHz bands, so the onboard wifi
> should still work. If you did buy your Raspberry Pi in a kit, the OS on the
> MicroSD will depend on the kit you purchased. However, although I believe the
> kit I have initially had Ubuntu, I'm not sure what is on other MicroSD cards.
> It will be better to rewrite it with a different OS. Instructions are
> available for ArchLinuxARM on its website
>
> https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2
>
> which also works on the Raspberry Pi 3. The tarball download includes no
> screen reader, but you can install packages over ssh fairly easily. You will
> probably want the MATE desktop and the Orca screen reader. It runs a bit
> slowly on these machines, because they have fairly slow processors and less
> RAM than other similar machines, but if you get zramswap from the AUR, you can
> add a little swapspace in memory that will speed things up a little. If you
> don't want/like the Arch philosophy or the rolling release model, where there
> is no set timetable for complete OS releases, and each package gets upgraded
> when it is released, I believe there may be Ubuntu releases that include Orca
> as well, although I don't have a link at this time. In all cases, you will
> want to either use your wired speakers and mask pulseaudio to keep it
> disabled, or use your USB speakers, as Pulseaudio remains badly broken on the
> Raspberry Pi's own sound hardware.
>
> Imetumwa kutoka maisha
>
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Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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...

I was also told itwould be possible for me to purchase last year's model 
and all I would

loose would be some input options as a result of not purchasing 
thecurrent model.


Maybe, but since they're the same price, I personally don't see any 
advantage in buying the previous model. The Raspberry Pi 3 has a faster 
processor, and the 32-bit software runs faster on the 64-bit A53 
processor than it does on the 32-bit A7 in the Raspberry Pi 2, even 
though they run at nearly the same clock speed. As far as input, I think 
the only difference is onboard wifi and bluetooth, which you will need 
to plug into USB ports or your hub to use with the Raspberry Pi 2, but 
then again, you'll need a plugin wifi adapter if you will only have 
access to the 5GHz band.


Another OS option for you is F123Light. I wouldn't call it ready for 
prime time just yet, but it is stable enough for testing, and we could 
certainly use some more technical users who can test for user 
friendliness as well as stability. Grab the latest English image from

https://public.f123.org/F123Light-English-18.08.30.img.xz

verifiable using

https://public.f123.org/F123Light-English-18.08.30.img.xz.sha1sum

First you can verify the integrity of the file using the sha1sum 
utility, as long as both the img.xz and the img.xz.sha1sum files are in 
the same folder.

sha1sum -c F123Light-English-18.08.30.img.xz.sha1sum

Then if you have Linux on the computer where you downloaded the files 
and you can get root permissions via sudo, you can verify the location 
of your card reader with an inserted MicroSD card using

lsblk

Then run

xzcat F123Light-English-18.08.30.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdx bs=2M

replacing the x in sdx with the last letter of the /dev/sdx device where 
your card is inserted. Get a cup of coffee or a snack and wait for the 
prompt to return. This will give you an OS that will work in the 
Raspberry Pi that comes right up talking, complete with a non-technical 
menu that covers most functions in a user friendly way. Hope this helps.

~Kyle

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raspberry-vi+request@groups.io apparently exists no longer.  I put
subscribe in a subject: field and sent e-mail to that address and got
back a delivery failure message as a result.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 14:18:44
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users
>
> The only needed piece of hardware I don't remember being mentioned is
> a micro SD card to hold the OS.
>
> Anyways, I would suggest checking out Raspberry Vi, which has a
> mailing list whose members could tell you much more than I can
> regarding the screen reader options on the Pi and which Pi-compatible
> distros are easiest to set up accesibility on.
>
> Also, if you want to run a graphical environment with orca, you'll
> probably need an USB sound dongle, which again, the people on
> Raspberry Vi could tell you more about that than I can.
>
>

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Re: raspberry pi for screen reader users

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I'll admit I'm not sure how to subscribe to the Raspberry Vi mailing
list, but according to my contacts on Gmail, their address is
raspberry-vi@freelists.org, and I'm pretty sure I've gotten messages
from others on the mailing list within the last week or two.

Also, the mailing list's companion website can be found at
http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html

Though I don't think the owner of the site and mailing list has
managed to post any current images for either Rasbian or Arch that
come with speech already enabled recently, and I'm not sure how up to
date the information on the site is.

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Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.