From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: blinux-list at redhat.com (Linux for blind general discussion) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 21:45:07 +0200 (SAST) Subject: Has anyone gotten i3 accessible yet? or is there a better option besides ratpoison, which is great, btw In-Reply-To: References: <291bcc92-8153-06b1-5831-937bb8d7f289@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8dc2aaf3-191a-b2f6-a4a2-0e55306d65@brandt-slint.study.home> List-Id: I personally don't need a lightweight Window Manager, 16 GB RAM in an I5 machine from 2020 made sure of that one, but being the minimalist that I am, I hate wasting anything, that include resources I may have used for something else, even if that would be not using them to save the laptops battery. I, for example, currently have the Rainbowstream Twitter client open in TTY1, mpv playing an internet station in TTY2 and this alpine in TTY3. I still have quite a few TTYs available for use, should I need them. This is where a WM such as ratpoison would make your life easier, if, for example, you don't want to use the CLI based mpv media player, you could use VLC in an XSession, or Thunderbird for email in stead of alpine. I could keep going, but I'll let things go here. Whatever you like, use it! This is the beauty of running Linux, there's no one way to do something. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp Sent from the Slint console using Alpine On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 16:04:19 +0000 > From: Linux for blind general discussion > To: blinux-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten i3 accessible yet? or is there a better option > besides ratpoison, which is great, btw > > I think the point of wanting an accessible ratpoison, i3, etc. setup > is that Gnome and Mate are both fairly hefty environments in terms of > resource usage, and Orca, if you'll pardon the pun, is a whale of a > resource user itself while these alternative window managers are > designed to be as lightweight as their creators could manage. > > One of Linux's appeals is breathing new life into old hardware, and > there are many machines that would choke on modern Windows and could > handle either Gnome/Mate or Orca, but can't handle both Gnome/Mate and > Orca and still have enough resources left over for running apps with > acceptable performance. And since the only real alternative to Orca is > ditch the GUI and do everything in the console, the focus for putting > an accessible desktop on old machines tends to be onstripping out > unused parts of the desktop environment and switching the vital > components to lighter weight alternatives. > > Also, as its name suggests, ratpoison is built from the ground up with > a keyboard-only, no mouse setup in mind, and blind users tend to fall > into the category of users who don't like using a mouse. > > Anyways, I myself am using the fast, light window manager(flwm)... but > I can't really speak to its accessibility since my setup doesn't > include anything remotely resembling a full desktop. Firefox is the > only graphical application I use and I launch it via a script I did > not write and understand next to nothing of how it works that > basically gives me Firefox+orca running as a kiosk on top of > flwm(though, while a true kiosk would prevent closing Firefox, on my > setup, closing firefox ends the xsession and drops back to the > console. The script uses compiz as its default Window manager, but > changing which window manager it uses is the one thing I've figured > out, and flwm was just the smallest window manager I tried that worked > as a drop in replacement... and even then, Firefox+Orca are such a > Behemoth and Leviathan combo that some websites(or having many tabs > open) slow my 4GB Ram, i7 20-something-hundred machine to a crawl(My > system drive being platter based probably doesn't help matters > either). > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list at redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >