Java Development Kit

Java Development Kit

[Robert Bebee]

I've been practicing with a zipslack installation, and I'm considering 
going for a purer Linux.  I'd like to work with Java.  I installed a 
JDK (Java Development Kit) on my zipslack-- it installed okay, but I 
couldn't do anything with it.  I'm too green at Linux to have much 
hope of unraveling the difficulties, but I read that the Linux JDK was 
developed under Debian, so I am considering installing Debian and 
trying the JDK again.  If it weren't for the JDK issue, I think I'd 
prefer going to Slackware. 

My questions:  Are any speakup users using a version of JDK?  If so, 
what version and distribution?  I'll appreciate any tips. 

Re: Java Development Kit

[Mario Lang]

Robert Bebee <rbebee@iquest.net> writes:

> I've been practicing with a zipslack installation, and I'm considering 
> going for a purer Linux.  I'd like to work with Java.  I installed a 
> JDK (Java Development Kit) on my zipslack-- it installed okay, but I 
> couldn't do anything with it.

What did you want to do?  All command-line / text-output
based java apps should work (there are practically none...).
And GUI java stuff does *NOT* work under Linux,
because there is still no working Java-enabled screen reader.
IBM wrote the SVK, but they only supported Windows and Solaris.


-- 
CYa,
  Mario

Re: Java Development Kit

[Osvaldo La Rosa]

Hello Roberet,
If you are talking about the latest ZipSlack, v8.1, you must know that
there is probably no make no other dev elements on it, since I have used
a zipslack to build BrlZip, i wasn't able to compile brltty, but v8.0
still contains a development part.
Maybe this can resolve your problem, but of course it's better to switch
to a real-full Gnu/Linux distro.

Osvaldo La Rosa - http://www.brlspeak.net/brlzip/

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:37:29PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
> Robert Bebee <rbebee@iquest.net> writes:
> 
> > I've been practicing with a zipslack installation, and I'm considering 
> > going for a purer Linux.  I'd like to work with Java.  I installed a 
> > JDK (Java Development Kit) on my zipslack-- it installed okay, but I 
> > couldn't do anything with it.
> 
> What did you want to do?  All command-line / text-output
> based java apps should work (there are practically none...).
> And GUI java stuff does *NOT* work under Linux,
> because there is still no working Java-enabled screen reader.
> IBM wrote the SVK, but they only supported Windows and Solaris.
> 
> 
> -- 
> CYa,
>   Mario
> 
> 
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Re: Java Development Kit

[Janina Sajka]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Mario Lang wrote:
> What did you want to do?  All command-line / text-output
> based java apps should work (there are practically none...).
> And GUI java stuff does *NOT* work under Linux,
> because there is still no working Java-enabled screen reader.

True. But there is charva that can, in some circumstances, interface to a 
gui app:

http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/

And, gnopernicus, the GNOME screen reader is coming along and will support 
Java.

So, while the stars may net yet be perfectly aligned, it may be a good 
time to get comfortable in Linux in order to take advantage of the Java 
support which is in the queue.

PS: You may want to look at our Red Hat installation HOWTO for the generic 
support it offers about making the transition from Windows to Linux, even 
if you intend to install Debian or Slackware. It's at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

Re: Java Development Kit

[Robert Bebee]

Yes, I  figured it would be best to run a more complete distro if I want to
do Java development.  I'm really rushing things a little, because I really
need to get more Linux fundamentals under my belt before launching into
anything as involved as a JDK.

Thanks.
At 08:52 AM 10/16/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello Roberet,
>If you are talking about the latest ZipSlack, v8.1, you must know that
>there is probably no make no other dev elements on it, since I have used
>a zipslack to build BrlZip, i wasn't able to compile brltty, but v8.0
>still contains a development part.
>Maybe this can resolve your problem, but of course it's better to switch
>to a real-full Gnu/Linux distro.
>
>Osvaldo La Rosa - http://www.brlspeak.net/brlzip/
>
>On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:37:29PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
>> Robert Bebee <rbebee@iquest.net> writes:
>> 
>> > I've been practicing with a zipslack installation, and I'm considering 
>> > going for a purer Linux.  I'd like to work with Java.  I installed a 
>> > JDK (Java Development Kit) on my zipslack-- it installed okay, but I 
>> > couldn't do anything with it.
>> 
>> What did you want to do?  All command-line / text-output
>> based java apps should work (there are practically none...).
>> And GUI java stuff does *NOT* work under Linux,
>> because there is still no working Java-enabled screen reader.
>> IBM wrote the SVK, but they only supported Windows and Solaris.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> CYa,
>>   Mario
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Java Development Kit

[Robert Bebee]

I wanted to write and run some applications.  The compiler (javac) wouldn't
run.  The problem may have been a simple as revising the PATH variable, but
I decided to wait until I had a more robust Linux than zipslack-- figured
the file zipslack file system might cause Java some problems.  

So far, except for a couple of applets, I've just written apps that run in
a DOS box-- I planned to work mostly with console mode programs under
Linux-- web crawlers, math programs, text manipulation, etc.  

I hadn't seen anything about Java on this list, but hoped some other
blinuxers were at least tinkering with Java.

Thanks for feedback.

At 12:37 PM 10/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Robert Bebee <rbebee@iquest.net> writes:
>
>> I've been practicing with a zipslack installation, and I'm considering 
>> going for a purer Linux.  I'd like to work with Java.  I installed a 
>> JDK (Java Development Kit) on my zipslack-- it installed okay, but I 
>> couldn't do anything with it.
>
>What did you want to do?  All command-line / text-output
>based java apps should work (there are practically none...).
>And GUI java stuff does *NOT* work under Linux,
>because there is still no working Java-enabled screen reader.
>IBM wrote the SVK, but they only supported Windows and Solaris.
>
>
>-- 
>CYa,
>  Mario
>
>
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