From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F8B3F056 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g64NLW426063 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:21:32 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g64NLWa26059 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:21:32 -0400 Received: from ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr (ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.104.16]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g64NBG922173 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:11:16 -0400 Received: from Pulsar.resI.insa-lyon.fr (I425.resI.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.164.228]) by ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B797E015 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2002 01:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bdaix by Pulsar.resI.insa-lyon.fr with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17QFy7-000075-00 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 01:24:59 +0200 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: woody root.bin References: From: Boris DAIX Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 01:24:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Cheryl Homiak's message of "Thu, 4 Jul 2002 17:13:07 -0500 (CDT)") Message-ID: <874rff6ppw.fsf@Pulsar.resI.insa-lyon.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Cheryl Homiak writes: > Hey, just now reading this thread and haven't tried it, but looks like an > excellent idea to me if it works. And... Yes, it does work !!! There are errors in kernel modules loading but I don't think it is because of the modification. So I will go on again tomorrow (here is time to sleep) to see why I get those errors, I may try with completely standard floppies to compare error messages, with someone helping. But I could read the welcome message (curses based), and so on. > i had tried modifying the woody root.bin by unzipping and mounting it and adding > the necessary files, including a statically linked brltty executable. However, > the resulting root.bin was too large, even though I had had success doing it > with potato's root.bin. Using the procedure of the brltty disk, if this works, > would stop all the bother each time a new root.bin comes out of trying to modify > it and hoping everything will fit or trying to decide what to remove. As it will > allways be possible to make the simple modification to root.bin described > without significantly increasing the size, this could be a long-term solution > instead of just a fix for doing it with woody. > Thanks. > A couple of comments on things people have written. > I know this has already been said, but i saw another question on it, > so--remember that you have to mv root.bin to root.gz and use gunzip to unzip it; > then you will find that you can mount it. > Secondly, it isn't necessary to actually install a statically linked brltty on > your system. You would just compile so it is statically linked and then transfer > the brltty executable and whatever other files you need/want. In this case, of > course you wouldn't use the install-brltty script because it will install your > /sbin/brltty (no doubt dynamically linked) instead of the brltty executable you > have created. This way you aren't changing the setup on your system in any way, > just creating what you need either to put on the root.bin or put in the brltty > disk. > > > as for woody, it is my impression from the debian lists that lots of > people are installing it directly rather than upgrading to it. I believe > it is mainly some security-related issues that have delayed woody's > release, but it shouldn't be a problem to install it. > As for SID, personally I would hold off a bit. I am now running SID > because I thought SID would become the testing version when woody was > released and woody was frozen so I wanted to continue upgrading. However, > apparently it isn't that straightforward. If I understood the discussion > of this on debian lists correctly, not all of the present unstable will > become testing/SID; some packages will remain in unstable while others > will form the new testing. so I'd advise you to wait until woody releases > and the smoke clears before trying a raw install either to the new testing > or unstable, but hey, if you don't mind some risk and your backups are > good enough to get you out of trouble, go for it! I think so. The last thing to check would be to see how "debian-installer" would replace all those accessibility troubles during install, 'cause I've been told on debian-boot that hacking floppies won't help anymore when this brand-new installer would be born. Let's wait... Another thing to take care would be to post-process a script that would enable, from hard drive, the brltty execution. Because when you finished configuring base-system (if I remember), you have to reboot to install all remaining stuff, and you have to make a lilo/boot floppy to completely restart the computer. So here is the last thing to fix. But like we have a complete floppy to put our things in, we should find a place to write an "install script"... May be the install-brltty would match (I never used it, using make install instead) ? > > Cheryl > > All I can say for now is "good night", tomorrow would be easier for me - so thank you Mario !! Boris