From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wBI9jMS9029902 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 04:45:22 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id AA3162CFBB; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx01.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2913608C2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-out-01.crystone.se (mail-out-01.crystone.se [93.90.145.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62E588E62 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Halon-ID: c3fa1b5a-02a8-11e9-8709-005056917149 Authorized-sender: anders@pipkrokodil.se Received: from [10.0.1.6] (unknown [213.89.82.222]) by mail-out-01.crystone.se (Halon) with ESMTPSA id c3fa1b5a-02a8-11e9-8709-005056917149; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:39:07 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Newbie to linux and a question Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:39:06 +0100 References: <2282C41C-FEE4-4A7A-BFE3-7D97A53306F0@icloud.com> <66D04849-034B-4664-BAC2-7880990BBE73@icloud.com> <001301d49482$16943ce0$43bcb6a0$@yandex.com> <35877387-093D-412D-82BE-591E89A206D7@icloud.com> To: blinux-list@redhat.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7778669D-A783-4795-BF2F-52B42CC5DF90@pipkrokodil.se> X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:06:05 by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:17 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'93.90.145.11' DOMAIN:'mail-out-01.crystone.se' HELO:'mail-out-01.crystone.se' FROM:'anders@pipkrokodil.se' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0 () 93.90.145.11 mail-out-01.crystone.se 93.90.145.11 mail-out-01.crystone.se X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 on 10.5.110.25 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id wBI9jMS9029902 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:45:23 -0000 Hi Jeff! That was very well explained. Thanks for that one. I am not a newbie but am not using the linux OS as much as i maybe wanted. THis i guess is because I am so lazie and feel a bit stupid if i ask something. I began 2 decades ago with Linux and way back then there was mostly command line use for a blind person. I sadly met people on the internet that was quite frustrated to have a newbie hanging around asking silly questions. /A > 15 dec. 2018 kl. 18:06 skrev Linux for blind general discussion : > > Okay, let me back up a bit. > > Knoppix is a Live Distribution developed by Klaus Knopper based on > Debian. As a live distribution, it is designed primarily to be run > from a DVD or USB flash drive, though it can be installed to a hard > drive, though this isn't generally recommended and its installer is a > bit quick and dirty compared to distributions actually intended to be > installed to a hard drive. > > Adriane(full name: Audio Desktop resource implemntation and networking > environment) is an accessibility suite bundled with Knoppix. By > default, a Knoppix DVD will boot to a desktop environment, but if the > right command is issued at the DVd's boot prompt, it will instead boot > in Adriane mode. > > When booted in Adriane mode, the sbl text-mode screen reader is > started automatically and the user is presented with a menu. Most of > the menu options are for common computing tasks such as browsing the > web, checking e-mail, editing documents, playing media files, or file > management, and most of the menu options will invoke an appropriate > text-mode application or serve as a front end to such. There's also an > option that will drop you down to the command line and a Graphical > Programs option that will give you a choice between launching Firefox > with Orca, LibreOffice with Orca, or a full desktop environment with > Orca. > > There use to be three official flavors of Knoppix, each available in > both an English version and a German version: Knoppix Cd, Adriane CD, > and Knoppix DVD. Knoppix CD booted to a graphical desktop by default, > included only the default desktop environment, and fit on a CD. > Adriane CD was identical to Knoppix CD, but booted into Adriane by > default. Knoppix DVD included the option to boot with a 64-bit kernel, > booting into alternate desktop environments, and bundled as much > software as could fit on a DVD, but had the same default boot options > as the Knoppix CD. At some point, Klaus Knopper got to a point where > trimming things down for the CD release took too much time nad effort, > and now, the only official Knoppix images are the Enlgish and German > versions of the DVd. Again, booting to Adriane is still possible, > though the Knoppix boot prompt isn't accessible, which prompted me to > learn how to modify the DVD iso to make it boot into Adriane by > default. > > If I'm not mistaken, Adriane utilizes the following text-mode > applications for its various components: > web browser: elinks. > e-mail client: mutt > OCR: Tesseract > File Management: Midnight Commander > Media player: mplayer2 or mpv(both are forks of mplayer) > text editing: nano. > Text-mode screen reader: sbl > Graphical Web browser: Firefox > Graphical Office Suite: LibreOffice > Graphical screen reader: Orca. > > Admittedly, I don't really use Adriane much myself, but then again, > I've been immersed in the command line for years, and the only reasons > I haven't switched back to vanilla Debian is because I prefer SBL to > espeakup(the default text-mode screen reader in Debian), sbl isn't > available in Debian's apt repositories, and I haven't figured out how > to replicate Adriane's ability to launch Firefox and Orca without > launching a full desktop environment under Debian. Still, Adriane > seems like a good way for someone who's blind and new to Linux to get > things done without having to constantly fight with the GUI or needing > to jump into the deep end with the command line. > > -- > Sincerely, > > Jeffery Wright > Bachelor of Computer Science > President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list