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([2606:a000:111a:8069::89c]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t42sm1818295qtg.43.2017.06.22.12.51.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Youtube TV Site? To: blinux-list@redhat.com References: <636719be-33d7-280d-5265-0d11edc8d1e8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6663c492-e248-ae6f-ad4e-182ea2b7c4c8@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:51:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux aarch64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.26]); Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.220.170' DOMAIN:'mail-qk0-f170.google.com' HELO:'mail-qk0-f170.google.com' FROM:'kyle4jesus@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0.27 (BAYES_50, DCC_REPUT_00_12, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.220.170 mail-qk0-f170.google.com 209.85.220.170 mail-qk0-f170.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.26 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:51:53 -0000 While it's true that DirecTVNow isn't exactly the most user friendly app on either a phone or a Roku device, I can get it to work on both, although I did need to use Chromium for the initial signup process, as I couldn't even get to the signup page in Firefox without getting a "WHAT THE DEUCE" unsupported browser message. Chromium gave me the same message whenever I tried to watch something, but I still was able to sign up using it. Having tried Sling, Playstation Vue, DirecTVNow and TikiLive on both Android and Roku devices, and having also tried Hulu with live TV on Android, I would say that Sling offers the best access on both Android and Roku by far, as it is quite accessible and fairly easy to use on both devices. Hulu is a fairly close second on Android, but doesn't run on Roku yet, although this is "coming soon" according to their list of supported devices. Both PlayStation Vue and DirecTVNow are mostly usable on the Roku devices, but the interfaces are a bit less intuitive than Sling. On Android, DirecTVNow works, but refuses to cast to a Chromecast, and the guide will only tell me what's on, not what channel it's on, whereas the Roku will allow me to see a grid of channels, but won't tell me what's on them. Playstation Vue is the worst of the lot on Android, as not only did I have problems navigating in the guide, but I also could find no cast button, even with the latest Android and Google Home app. On the other hand, it's clearly my second choice for accessibility on Roku devices, and its channel lineup seems more comprehensive at the high end than Sling with its far superior UX but slightly less comprehensive channel lineup. At the high end though, Sling just may beat out PS Vue, although I didn't try the highest package with all the extras to see what I would get. For now, I have a 1 month trial of DirecTVNow that will expire in just under a month, and I watch TikiLive's free channels, of which there are many, although few if any of those are cable channels. However, cable channels are available from TikiLive at a cost of $30/month, and this seems to include a lineup that is similar to Youtube TV's offering, but it's available anywhere in the US. Hope at least some of this information helps. ~Kyle