Other accessible terminal emulation

Other accessible terminal emulation

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Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
terminal in a window manager?

Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Howdy,

gnome-terminal works as well.

you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by  
starting it with:
fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)

cheers chrys
Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:

> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
> terminal in a window manager?
>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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xfce4-terminal and lxterminal.

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On 19/11/2018 16:49, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
> terminal in a window manager?
> 
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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What is fenrir?

On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> gnome-terminal works as well.
>
> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
> starting it with:
> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>
> cheers chrys
> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>
>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>> terminal in a window manager?
>>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).

Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).

No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
animal-based name.

On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> What is fenrir?
>
> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>
>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>> starting it with:
>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>
>> cheers chrys
>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>
>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Howdy,

> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itse
yea exactly. Fenrir provides "drivers" to provide different backends 
(speech, braille (WIP), input, sound, remote and screen)
currently i implement 2 different screen drivers.
1. vcsaDriver: uses /dev/vcsa[1-x] as information source to provide 
information on the screen. this just works for real TTY terminal with an 
existing VCSA device
2. ptyDriver: uses pty, fork, and pyte to stand as "man in the middle" 
(like yasr did but in a lot more advanced state). so it spawns an 
terminal and  captures any input you did and watches to the output of 
its child process, processing it and pass it through.
i suggest to use XTERM or another inaccessible terminal emulator to my 
users, because they don't conflict with orca at all (input (shortcuts) 
and output).

> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
fenrir provides Unicode support as well for any language form just the 
beginning (on VCSA and PTY).

> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
hehe because i m a rebel ;). Just kidding. the naming was strom_dragons 
idea ;).

sadly i m not a good software deployer, so i just provide packages for 
ArchLinux (since i use it). I also see some debian packages ( i never 
tested or tried them, currenlty).
But fenrir runs also without any installation just from git, (the 
dependencies are needed of course).
so if anyone is good in deploying software for different distros with 
setup.py or similar, just tell me :).

cheers chrys

Am 19.11.18 um 18:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>
> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>
> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
> animal-based name.
>
> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> What is fenrir?
>>
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>
>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>> starting it with:
>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>
>>> cheers chrys
>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Well what does the -E option and why would I use it in a window
manager? I would allready be using orca. Also would someone be able to
tell me how in the world I install qtatspi for qt accessibility? Also
does anyone have any recordings of how to use jack?

On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>
> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>
> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
> animal-based name.
>
> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>> What is fenrir?
>>
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>
>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>> starting it with:
>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>
>>> cheers chrys
>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffery Wright
> Bachelor of Computer Science
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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xterm doesn't speak but with fenrir it can? Would you be willing to
make a recording of this in action?

On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itse
> yea exactly. Fenrir provides "drivers" to provide different backends
> (speech, braille (WIP), input, sound, remote and screen)
> currently i implement 2 different screen drivers.
> 1. vcsaDriver: uses /dev/vcsa[1-x] as information source to provide
> information on the screen. this just works for real TTY terminal with an
> existing VCSA device
> 2. ptyDriver: uses pty, fork, and pyte to stand as "man in the middle"
> (like yasr did but in a lot more advanced state). so it spawns an
> terminal and  captures any input you did and watches to the output of
> its child process, processing it and pass it through.
> i suggest to use XTERM or another inaccessible terminal emulator to my
> users, because they don't conflict with orca at all (input (shortcuts)
> and output).
>
>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
> fenrir provides Unicode support as well for any language form just the
> beginning (on VCSA and PTY).
>
>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
> hehe because i m a rebel ;). Just kidding. the naming was strom_dragons
> idea ;).
>
> sadly i m not a good software deployer, so i just provide packages for
> ArchLinux (since i use it). I also see some debian packages ( i never
> tested or tried them, currenlty).
> But fenrir runs also without any installation just from git, (the
> dependencies are needed of course).
> so if anyone is good in deploying software for different distros with
> setup.py or similar, just tell me :).
>
> cheers chrys
>
> Am 19.11.18 um 18:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
>> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
>> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
>> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
>> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
>> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
>> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
>> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
>> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>>
>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
>> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
>> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
>> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>>
>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
>> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
>> animal-based name.
>>
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> What is fenrir?
>>>
>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>>
>>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>>> starting it with:
>>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>>
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Howdy,

> xterm doesn't speak but with fenrir it can? Would you be willing to
> make a recording of this in action?
Hmm? I could do this but what should be the result you wish? It will just sound like your TTS system, reading your shell and command line applications. So the same like in TTY. In fact it walks the same codepaths but collecting the data is done different.

If you want to try and need help you may want to take a look at our IRC 
network:
irc.linux-a11y.org
room:
#a11y

Its more easy do support in realtime instead of long mailing ping pong :)

Cheers Chrys

> Am 19.11.2018 um 21:28 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> xterm doesn't speak but with fenrir it can? Would you be willing to
> make a recording of this in action?
> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itse
>> yea exactly. Fenrir provides "drivers" to provide different backends
>> (speech, braille (WIP), input, sound, remote and screen)
>> currently i implement 2 different screen drivers.
>> 1. vcsaDriver: uses /dev/vcsa[1-x] as information source to provide
>> information on the screen. this just works for real TTY terminal with an
>> existing VCSA device
>> 2. ptyDriver: uses pty, fork, and pyte to stand as "man in the middle"
>> (like yasr did but in a lot more advanced state). so it spawns an
>> terminal and  captures any input you did and watches to the output of
>> its child process, processing it and pass it through.
>> i suggest to use XTERM or another inaccessible terminal emulator to my
>> users, because they don't conflict with orca at all (input (shortcuts)
>> and output).
>> 
>>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>> fenrir provides Unicode support as well for any language form just the
>> beginning (on VCSA and PTY).
>> 
>>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>> hehe because i m a rebel ;). Just kidding. the naming was strom_dragons
>> idea ;).
>> 
>> sadly i m not a good software deployer, so i just provide packages for
>> ArchLinux (since i use it). I also see some debian packages ( i never
>> tested or tried them, currenlty).
>> But fenrir runs also without any installation just from git, (the
>> dependencies are needed of course).
>> so if anyone is good in deploying software for different distros with
>> setup.py or similar, just tell me :).
>> 
>> cheers chrys
>> 
>>> Am 19.11.18 um 18:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
>>> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
>>> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
>>> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
>>> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
>>> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
>>> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
>>> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
>>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>>> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
>>> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>>> 
>>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
>>> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
>>> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
>>> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>>> 
>>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>>> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
>>> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
>>> animal-based name.
>>> 
>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> What is fenrir?
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>>>> starting it with:
>>>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Other accessible terminal emulation

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Howdy,

> Well what does the -E option and 

For Fenrir -e and -E it starts with PTY emulation. -e is watching for terminal escape sequences for shortcuts; -E does the same but grabs the shortcuts from EVDEV (linux event device) - it allows a typical shortcut layout but it limits fenrir to be single instance (only one application can have exclusive access to EVDEV), escape sequences are depending on the used terminal and it limits shortcuts to the set of possible sequences (example ^e for CTRL + e)

> why would I use it in a window
> manager?
The question was about speaking terminal emulators, so i suggested an graphical environment here. I have user what uses orca for guy apps and fenrir for its terminal emulation window. Biggest reason for most is better handling of complex text applications, some restart speaking after pressing a key and other bugs like that. Fenrir behaves equal on all text environments. Another reason is it has more functionality that is tuned for an text environment like speak indentation changes (useful for python hacker), hilight mode, spellchecker, a concept i call barrier mode (respects the ascii pseudo windows), sound icons, attribute handling ,  A say all and table review mode (navigate per cell or line an speak headline bevor each cell content is in WIP. Stuff like that...

> Also would someone be able to
> tell me how in the world I install qtatspi for qt accessibility? 
What distro is used here?

I never used jack, so sorry :/ can't with that.

Cheers chrys

> Am 19.11.2018 um 21:26 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> Well what does the -E option and why would I use it in a window
> manager? I would allready be using orca. Also would someone be able to
> tell me how in the world I install qtatspi for qt accessibility? Also
> does anyone have any recordings of how to use jack?
> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
>> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
>> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
>> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
>> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
>> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
>> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
>> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
>> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>> 
>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
>> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
>> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
>> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>> 
>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
>> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
>> animal-based name.
>> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> What is fenrir?
>>> 
>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>> 
>>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>>> starting it with:
>>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>> 
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Jeffery Wright
>> Bachelor of Computer Science
>> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
>> 
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