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From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Other accessible terminal emulation
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:03:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A6FBBE2-3CC6-4CD7-BE12-4FB617D7F4D0@linux-a11y.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADj8JxdAfBK_1+OEJ7GLnkfsSOvhLxPJVRB1LH9ZV6=YvY_pog@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy,

> Well what does the -E option and 

For Fenrir -e and -E it starts with PTY emulation. -e is watching for terminal escape sequences for shortcuts; -E does the same but grabs the shortcuts from EVDEV (linux event device) - it allows a typical shortcut layout but it limits fenrir to be single instance (only one application can have exclusive access to EVDEV), escape sequences are depending on the used terminal and it limits shortcuts to the set of possible sequences (example ^e for CTRL + e)

> why would I use it in a window
> manager?
The question was about speaking terminal emulators, so i suggested an graphical environment here. I have user what uses orca for guy apps and fenrir for its terminal emulation window. Biggest reason for most is better handling of complex text applications, some restart speaking after pressing a key and other bugs like that. Fenrir behaves equal on all text environments. Another reason is it has more functionality that is tuned for an text environment like speak indentation changes (useful for python hacker), hilight mode, spellchecker, a concept i call barrier mode (respects the ascii pseudo windows), sound icons, attribute handling ,  A say all and table review mode (navigate per cell or line an speak headline bevor each cell content is in WIP. Stuff like that...

> Also would someone be able to
> tell me how in the world I install qtatspi for qt accessibility? 
What distro is used here?

I never used jack, so sorry :/ can't with that.

Cheers chrys

> Am 19.11.2018 um 21:26 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> Well what does the -E option and why would I use it in a window
> manager? I would allready be using orca. Also would someone be able to
> tell me how in the world I install qtatspi for qt accessibility? Also
> does anyone have any recordings of how to use jack?
> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Fenrir is a text-mode, userspace screen reader written in Python. I
>> haven't used it myself, but its gaining popularity as an alternative
>> to espeakup. The two biggest pros I've heard is that, as a user space
>> application, it doesn't require a kernel module(espeakup requires the
>> speakup kernel module) and should thus be easier to setup on distros
>> that don't ship staging modules in their default kernels(speakup has
>> been trapped in staging for years and has little chance of graduating
>> to kernel main short of a complete rewrite as I understand it) and
>> built-in support for Unicode(arguably of limited use for
>> English-speaking users, but could be vital to those whose native
>> language uses a non-Latin Alphabet).
>> 
>> Also, previous messages in this thread would suggest it works just as
>> well in a Terminal Emulator as from the terminal itself, which I don't
>> believe I've heard suggest of espeakup or SBL, the latter which I use
>> for terminal speech myself(I only run X for Firefox, so I can't
>> comment on the question of Terminal Emulators).
>> 
>> No idea why Fenrir is named after the Wolf from Norse mythology,
>> especially since its traditional to name screen readers after marine
>> animals and this is the only screen reader I know of with a non-marine
>> animal-based name.
>> 
>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> What is fenrir?
>>> 
>>> On 11/19/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> 
>>>> gnome-terminal works as well.
>>>> 
>>>> you also can use fenrir to make an terminal emulator accessible by
>>>> starting it with:
>>>> fenrir -e (for using escape sequence shortcuts)
>>>> sudo fenrir -E (using evdev, can only run once)
>>>> 
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>> Zitat von Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any other accessible terminal emulators besides using mate
>>>>> terminal in a window manager?
>>>>> 
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>> --
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>> 
>> Jeffery Wright
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