Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Lloyd G. Rasmussen]

What you ask for is not likely to be available until artificial 
intelligence goes forward much further.  You are asking a computer 
program which knows the *presentation* of a document to correctly 
infer the *structure* of that document, or at least attempt to do so.  

I recently bought Omnipage 9 for Win95 from Caere Corporation.  Among 
all its export formats, it includes an HTML export format.  From what 
I've seen so far, the objective is to make a GUI web browser display 
the page, with fonts, italics, centering, intact.  The HTML is  a 
series of <p> and <br> with Font, I, Align attributes.  No structure.  
It even claims to conform to the HTML 3.0 DTD, and tells you that the 
generator is Adobe Word for Word.  I know that HTML is not SGML.  But 
I'm not too hopeful that when OCR programs begin exporting XML, that 
they will do much better than this. 

I know that Duxbury attempts to create styles in a file which it has 
imported from ASCII, but this is usually just a beginning toward 
correctly marking up a document.  I agree that you're aiming for the 
right objective, but I don't know how we're going to get there.

On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:28:03 +1100 (AEDT), 
Jason White   <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> wrote:

>On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
>development, see http://www.socr.org/
>
>What is most needed as output is not straightforward ASCII text, but
>rather a document which has been marked up in SGML, XML or a related
>language, that preserves its structure and maintains the distinctions
>necessary for the generation of high quality braille and audio output.
>
>
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Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jude Dashiell]

That o.c.r. site is alive.  I tried three times tonight and
on the third try got through and bookmarked the page.  Thanks much for the
site, however this turns out should be interesting.


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jude <jdashiel@clark.net>

Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Ron Marriage]

Had the same problem the first time, tried a second time and got in.
Later tried again, and still got a no DNS for first try, but came up again
on second try.  

Ron


At 08:10 PM 12/6/98 -0500, Jude Dashiell wrote:
>That site can't be located by lynx.  Either busy or nonexistent.
>On Mon, 7
>Dec 1998, Jason White wrote:
>
>> On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
>> development, see http://www.socr.org/


Ron Marriage
Email    = mailto:marriage@seidata.com
Homepage = http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/
Blind Related Links
http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html
or
http://welcome.to/blindlinks

Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jude Dashiell]

Is that a new domain?  Reason I ask is I tried a second time and still no
cigar.


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jude <jdashiel@clark.net>

Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jack Berdeaux]

It is working now  http://www.socr.org/

Jason White wrote:

> On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
> development, see http://www.socr.org/
>
> What is most needed as output is not straightforward ASCII text, but
> rather a document which has been marked up in SGML, XML or a related
> language, that preserves its structure and maintains the distinctions
> necessary for the generation of high quality braille and audio output.
>
> ---
> Send your message for blinux-list to blinux-list@redhat.com
> Blinux software archive at ftp://leb.net/pub/blinux
> Blinux web page at http://leb.net/blinux
> To unsubscribe send mail to blinux-list-request@redhat.com
> with subject line: unsubscribe

Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jack Berdeaux]

nonexistent!

Jude Dashiell wrote:

> That site can't be located by lynx.  Either busy or nonexistent.
> On Mon, 7
> Dec 1998, Jason White wrote:
>
> > On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
> > development, see http://www.socr.org/
> >
> > What is most needed as output is not straightforward ASCII text, but
> > rather a document which has been marked up in SGML, XML or a related
> > language, that preserves its structure and maintains the distinctions
> > necessary for the generation of high quality braille and audio output.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Send your message for blinux-list to blinux-list@redhat.com
> > Blinux software archive at ftp://leb.net/pub/blinux
> > Blinux web page at http://leb.net/blinux
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> > with subject line: unsubscribe
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> jude <jdashiel@clark.net>
>
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Re: OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jude Dashiell]

That site can't be located by lynx.  Either busy or nonexistent.
On Mon, 7
Dec 1998, Jason White wrote:

> On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
> development, see http://www.socr.org/
> 
> What is most needed as output is not straightforward ASCII text, but
> rather a document which has been marked up in SGML, XML or a related
> language, that preserves its structure and maintains the distinctions
> necessary for the generation of high quality braille and audio output.
> 
> 
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> Blinux software archive at ftp://leb.net/pub/blinux
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jude <jdashiel@clark.net>

OCR software (was Re: Concerning BLinux project (fwd))

[Jason White]

On the subject of freely available OCR software, currently under
development, see http://www.socr.org/

What is most needed as output is not straightforward ASCII text, but
rather a document which has been marked up in SGML, XML or a related
language, that preserves its structure and maintains the distinctions
necessary for the generation of high quality braille and audio output.