where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Janina Sajka]

I have forwarded this lovely note to several individuals who I know to be 
very responsible for accessibility support in Red Hat Linux 8.0. May I say 
I heartily concur with your sentiment. Thank you, Red Hat, for what you've 
done with 8.0, and what we know you will do in future distributions of Red 
Hat and GNOME.


-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Willem van der Walt<vdwaltw@health.gov.za>" <vdwaltw@health.gov.za>

Hi,
I am busy downloading the reasently released RedHat 8.0
release. The first iso image is done, so i mounted it and found a file: 
README.Accessibility on the disk.
This version of rh is now coming standard with speakup in the kernel and
as before, it includes emacspeak and other accessibility software.
I feel that one as a blind person should send email some whare to thank
the company for providing these things.
Where would be the best place to email them?
regards, Willem


-- 
Willem van der Walt
Information Services Directorate
Department of Health
South Africa
tel: 27 12 3120700




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Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Pawel Loba]

Good day all:
Let me express my sincerest congratulations and thanks to all of those 
individuals who have and continue to work on making Linux accessible. 
Personally, I think that this is the best platform for blind individuals.

Regards,

Pawel Loba
Adaptive Technology Consultant
Reginal Assessment Centre
CNIB Toronto District

Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[David Csercsics]

At 06:39 PM 03/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Good day all:
>Let me express my sincerest congratulations and thanks to all of those
>individuals who have and continue to work on making Linux accessible.
>Personally, I think that this is the best platform for blind individuals.
You're darn right it is! Unfortunately my braille display gave up the ghost 
and so I can't use Linux til that gets replaced and I don't have a hardware 
synth so I'm stuck in Windows at the moment. Not fun! Don't have another 
box or I'd do the serial console thing.
   

Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Reinhard Stebner]

why do you say this (below)?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pawel Loba" <pawel@adaptech.net>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jeremy Hogan" <jhogan@redhat.com>; "William F. Acker"
<wacker@octothorp.org>; "Jennifer Lamb" <jlamb@redhat.com>; "Havoc
Pennington" <hp@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)


> Good day all:
> Let me express my sincerest congratulations and thanks to all of those
> individuals who have and continue to work on making Linux accessible.
> Personally, I think that this is the best platform for blind individuals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pawel Loba
> Adaptive Technology Consultant
> Reginal Assessment Centre
> CNIB Toronto District
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Pawel Loba]

Hi:
First of all, because of work of guys who are involved into the 
Speakup and/or BRLTTY projects, we can enjoy absolutely 
'eyes-free' installation and operation of the operating system 
which have much superior capacities than Windows environment in 
all most any respect, In my case, networking is my hobby and I 
can do practically everything undr Linux what my sighted friends
do. Never mind accessibility of Windows in this regards but I 
wouldn't be even able to afford the copy of Windows server 
edition and even I bought one, I don't think that its 
installation and implementation could be as accessible as it is 
in case of Red Hat. I'm not Linux guru or programer, I'm just 
simple user looking for the most affordable, accessible and the 
most satisfactory way of working with my computer. Linux as the 
operationg system, BRLTTY and/or Speakup never failed on me, I 
can't say the same about Windows and Windows-related adaptive 
technologies.

Is it enough for you? :-)

Thanks,
Pawel.

 On 
Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Reinhard Stebner wrote:

> why do you say this (below)?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pawel Loba" <pawel@adaptech.net>
> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Jeremy Hogan" <jhogan@redhat.com>; "William F. Acker"
> <wacker@octothorp.org>; "Jennifer Lamb" <jlamb@redhat.com>; "Havoc
> Pennington" <hp@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)
> 
> 
> > Good day all:
> > Let me express my sincerest congratulations and thanks to all of those
> > individuals who have and continue to work on making Linux accessible.
> > Personally, I think that this is the best platform for blind individuals.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pawel Loba
> > Adaptive Technology Consultant
> > Reginal Assessment Centre
> > CNIB Toronto District
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Scott B. Berry]

Hi Genena,

I know that Debian is also supported with Speakup but I tried writing the
guy who was responsible for including Speakup in Debian but have no addie
for him by email.  I am wondering how I can help in getting the process of
Speakiup going in the next release of Debian as well?  I would be happy to
advocate for this and any other distros that could use Speakup which
probably would be a few more.  Thanks for your help.
Scott Berry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: "Jeremy Hogan" <jhogan@redhat.com>
Cc: <blinux-list@redhat.com>; "William F. Acker" <wacker@octothorp.org>;
"Jennifer Lamb" <jlamb@redhat.com>; "Havoc Pennington" <hp@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)


> I have forwarded this lovely note to several individuals who I know to be
> very responsible for accessibility support in Red Hat Linux 8.0. May I say
> I heartily concur with your sentiment. Thank you, Red Hat, for what you've
> done with 8.0, and what we know you will do in future distributions of Red
> Hat and GNOME.
>
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Willem van der Walt<vdwaltw@health.gov.za>" <vdwaltw@health.gov.za>
>
> Hi,
> I am busy downloading the recently released RedHat 8.0
> release. The first iso image is done, so i mounted it and found a file:
> README.Accessibility on the disk.
> This version of rh is now coming standard with speakup in the kernel and
> as before, it includes emacspeak and other accessibility software.
> I feel that one as a blind person should send email some whare to thank
> the company for providing these things.
> Where would be the best place to email them?
> regards, Willem
>
>
> --
> Willem van der Walt
> Information Services Directorate
> Department of Health
> South Africa
> tel: 27 12 3120700
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
>
>
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Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Janina,

I hope you have seriously read and considered Jason's posting concerning the
way in which RedHat appears to handle (or more like not handle)
accessibility issues with respect to their RHCE certification.  I will
probably be doing this sometime next year, and it sounds like RedHat is even
worse than Microsoft in this area!  Hmmm, RedHat, Linux, open source???
Jason's experience sounds like the 180 degree opposite to me.  Do you have
any ideas for those of us who are soon to be aspiring RHCE folks?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: "Jeremy Hogan" <jhogan@redhat.com>
Cc: <blinux-list@redhat.com>; "William F. Acker" <wacker@octothorp.org>;
"Jennifer Lamb" <jlamb@redhat.com>; "Havoc Pennington" <hp@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)


> I have forwarded this lovely note to several individuals who I know to be
> very responsible for accessibility support in Red Hat Linux 8.0. May I say
> I heartily concur with your sentiment. Thank you, Red Hat, for what you've
> done with 8.0, and what we know you will do in future distributions of Red
> Hat and GNOME.
>
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Willem van der Walt<vdwaltw@health.gov.za>" <vdwaltw@health.gov.za>
>
> Hi,
> I am busy downloading the reasently released RedHat 8.0
> release. The first iso image is done, so i mounted it and found a file:
> README.Accessibility on the disk.
> This version of rh is now coming standard with speakup in the kernel and
> as before, it includes emacspeak and other accessibility software.
> I feel that one as a blind person should send email some whare to thank
> the company for providing these things.
> Where would be the best place to email them?
> regards, Willem
>
>
> --
> Willem van der Walt
> Information Services Directorate
> Department of Health
> South Africa
> tel: 27 12 3120700
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
>
>
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Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Buddy Brannan]

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:14:30PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> any ideas for those of us who are soon to be aspiring RHCE folks?

Yeah...check out LPI certification instead. ...
http://www.lpi.org
-- 
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Phone: (814) 455-7333     | I'd step to the side and say,
Email: davros@ycardz.com  | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!"
http://www.ycardz.com/    | --Eddie From Ohio

Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Buddy,

I can think of two possible reasons why LPI certification might not be a
good alternative to RedHat's:

1.
The blind person's employer requires specifically a certain type of
certification such as RHCE, and LPI or something else is not considered a
sufficient alternative, or no alternatives are permitted.
2.
The RedHat RHCE certification may be more widely recognized within the
industry, and thus more appealing to people who are screening job candidates
or bidding for consulting contracts.

Anyhow, due to RedHat's industry standing in the Linux community, RedHat has
the responsibility to come to the plate on accessibility in the area of
certification exams and course materials, at least to the same point at
which CompTIA and Microsoft currently stand!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddy Brannan" <davros@ycardz.com>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: where do i thank Redhat? (fwd)


> On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:14:30PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> > any ideas for those of us who are soon to be aspiring RHCE folks?
>
> Yeah...check out LPI certification instead. ...
> http://www.lpi.org
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3   | "And if the ground yawned,
> Phone: (814) 455-7333     | I'd step to the side and say,
> Email: davros@ycardz.com  | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!"
> http://www.ycardz.com/    | --Eddie From Ohio
>
>
>
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