Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Tony Baechler]

Hi.  You probably got tons of answers but here goes anyway.  The short 
answer is to read the man page on /etc/fstab and make sure to use fat32 for 
Win 9x, otherwise long filenames will not show up.  If you are using 
Slackware, you are prompted for this during installation and it sets things 
up automatically.  The way I did it was to make a directory called /win.  I 
had subdirectories for all my drives under /win, like /win/c, /win/d, 
etc.  I had to fiddle with /etc/fstab a few times before I got it right and 
found the syntax confusing, but it was great once it worked.

installing inux was re: RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Michael Malver]

I want to run linux on my  drive, which already has windows on it.  I had
trouble getting it to recognise my win95 filenames because I used the
zipslack install, and didn't understand how to edit stuff.  Is there a way
to do a talking install of linux so I will be prompted for everything, and
configured properly, but without repartitioning my drive?
I guess what I'm asking is is there a way to unzip zipslack, but ten somehow
run the linux install program, so that it will re set itself up and allow me
to taylor it to my system, but not make me change anything about the way my
system currently behaves?
I hope this questin makes sense.


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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup


Hi.  You probably got tons of answers but here goes anyway.  The short
answer is to read the man page on /etc/fstab and make sure to use fat32 for
Win 9x, otherwise long filenames will not show up.  If you are using
Slackware, you are prompted for this during installation and it sets things
up automatically.  The way I did it was to make a directory called /win.  I
had subdirectories for all my drives under /win, like /win/c, /win/d,
etc.  I had to fiddle with /etc/fstab a few times before I got it right and
found the syntax confusing, but it was great once it worked.



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RE: installing inux was re: RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Georgina]

Hi

If I understand you correctly, no you can't run the installation program in
the same way as if you were to do a complete install.  But hold on, what is
it you want to do?  You want to see your long filenames that have been
produced under Windows?  What for?  What are your expectations?  You'd be
better off in spending some time reading up on how to use one of the many
editors.  Now everyone has their favourite and I can't remember which ones
you have in ZipSpeak.  If your goal is to use any Unix type systems, you'd
better look at one of the vi clones, such as, vim and Elvis.  There's an
excellent tutorial on the vi home page.  Emacs is very popular and there are
a couple of versions of this one too, such as, memacs.  Again there's a
tutorial that is easy to follow.  Emacs has the advantage in that you could
use it as a speech option as in emacspeak.  Pico and Joe are little editors
which are similar to Edit and Word Star Windows editors.  Having said which,
none of these will be useful to edit Word Processed documents that have been
produced under Windows.  But you'll need to be able to edit scripts and
profiles etc.  It's what using Linux is all about, being able to tune the
system to meet your needs.

HTH
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Sent: 15 December 2001 15:39
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: installing inux was re: RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup


I want to run linux on my  drive, which already has windows on it.  I had
trouble getting it to recognise my win95 filenames because I used the
zipslack install, and didn't understand how to edit stuff.  Is there a way
to do a talking install of linux so I will be prompted for everything, and
configured properly, but without repartitioning my drive?
I guess what I'm asking is is there a way to unzip zipslack, but ten somehow
run the linux install program, so that it will re set itself up and allow me
to taylor it to my system, but not make me change anything about the way my
system currently behaves?
I hope this questin makes sense.


-----Original Message-----
From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Tony Baechler
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:46 AM
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup


Hi.  You probably got tons of answers but here goes anyway.  The short
answer is to read the man page on /etc/fstab and make sure to use fat32 for
Win 9x, otherwise long filenames will not show up.  If you are using
Slackware, you are prompted for this during installation and it sets things
up automatically.  The way I did it was to make a directory called /win.  I
had subdirectories for all my drives under /win, like /win/c, /win/d,
etc.  I had to fiddle with /etc/fstab a few times before I got it right and
found the syntax confusing, but it was great once it worked.



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RE: installing inux was re: RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Lloyd G. Rasmussen]

And don't forget NANO, a new editor a lot like PICO.  But as for me, I
often use UltraEdit to edit stuff in my Cygwin directories.

At 01:14 PM 12/16/01 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>If I understand you correctly, no you can't run the installation program in
>the same way as if you were to do a complete install.  But hold on, what is
>it you want to do?  You want to see your long filenames that have been
>produced under Windows?  What for?  What are your expectations?  You'd be
>better off in spending some time reading up on how to use one of the many
>editors.  Now everyone has their favourite and I can't remember which ones
>you have in ZipSpeak.  If your goal is to use any Unix type systems, you'd
>better look at one of the vi clones, such as, vim and Elvis.  There's an
>excellent tutorial on the vi home page.  Emacs is very popular and there are
>a couple of versions of this one too, such as, memacs.  Again there's a
>tutorial that is easy to follow.  Emacs has the advantage in that you could
>use it as a speech option as in emacspeak.  Pico and Joe are little editors
>which are similar to Edit and Word Star Windows editors.  Having said which,
>none of these will be useful to edit Word Processed documents that have been
>produced under Windows.  But you'll need to be able to edit scripts and
>profiles etc.  It's what using Linux is all about, being able to tune the
>system to meet your needs.
>
>HTH
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Michael Malver
>Sent: 15 December 2001 15:39
>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>Subject: installing inux was re: RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup
>
>
>I want to run linux on my  drive, which already has windows on it.  I had
>trouble getting it to recognise my win95 filenames because I used the
>zipslack install, and didn't understand how to edit stuff.  Is there a way
>to do a talking install of linux so I will be prompted for everything, and
>configured properly, but without repartitioning my drive?
>I guess what I'm asking is is there a way to unzip zipslack, but ten somehow
>run the linux install program, so that it will re set itself up and allow me
>to taylor it to my system, but not make me change anything about the way my
>system currently behaves?
>I hope this questin makes sense.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Tony Baechler
>Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:46 AM
>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>Subject: Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup
>
>
>Hi.  You probably got tons of answers but here goes anyway.  The short
>answer is to read the man page on /etc/fstab and make sure to use fat32 for
>Win 9x, otherwise long filenames will not show up.  If you are using
>Slackware, you are prompted for this during installation and it sets things
>up automatically.  The way I did it was to make a directory called /win.  I
>had subdirectories for all my drives under /win, like /win/c, /win/d,
>etc.  I had to fiddle with /etc/fstab a few times before I got it right and
>found the syntax confusing, but it was great once it worked.

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Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Rafael]

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 11:33:20AM -0000, Georgina wrote:
> Hi
> 
> To automatically mount devices use the auto flag and not the noauto as
> suggested below.  Don't auto mount devices that have removable disks such as

Yeah I agree there, but there is no need for auto statement at all. If you
need access to dos partition all the time then mount it like other
partitions permanently.

I was in a hurry cutting and pasting from one part of email to the other
while installing RedHat 7.2 on a 4 CPU system before rushing to Christmas 
party.

> floppies and cdroms.  So in that respect the cd and floppy examples below
> are correct.  But as the original question is regarding msdos and vfat
> partitions on fixed disks the auto flag is the correct one to use for the
> task.
> 
> 

-- 
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RE: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Georgina]

Hi

To automatically mount devices use the auto flag and not the noauto as
suggested below.  Don't auto mount devices that have removable disks such as
floppies and cdroms.  So in that respect the cd and floppy examples below
are correct.  But as the original question is regarding msdos and vfat
partitions on fixed disks the auto flag is the correct one to use for the
task.


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[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rafael
Sent: 14 December 2001 23:52
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup


On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:48:28PM -0600, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hello,
> I would like to mount my dos and wWindows partition on boot-up, without
> having to log in a root to do so. What file needs to be changed? More

/etc/fstab
file keeps track of partitions and how they get mounted. For example:
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto    noauto,owner    0 0

automaticaly mounts floppy and
/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0

mounts CD drive.

For DOS partitions you would need to have a mounting point,
/mnt/dos  for example and have an entry in fstab file

/dev/hdb1	/mnt/dos msdos noauto,owner,rw 0 0

> generally, which files control what Linux does on boot-up?

That's all under /etc. More specificaly /etc/rc.d and other /etc/rc.*
structure. Files that start with capital S are executed during bootup or
switch into a particular level, while files with K kill services for that
level.

/etc/rc?.d is the directory name for level you want to run. In most cases
level 3 and level 5 are used. Level 1 is for system maintenance and level
6 for reboot. To switch to different level after boot you run command
init.

init 3
for level 3.

init 6 to reboot.
init 0 to shutdown.

Files in /etc/rc?.d are links to scripts in /etc/init.d.

There is more to this but it should give you an idea what's going on.
Unfortunately, RedHat and Linux in general has scripts and network
configuration too complicated to quickly follow one script after the
other.

> Thanks.
> John
>

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Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Rafael]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:48:28PM -0600, John J. Boyer wrote:
> Hello,
> I would like to mount my dos and wWindows partition on boot-up, without
> having to log in a root to do so. What file needs to be changed? More

/etc/fstab
file keeps track of partitions and how they get mounted. For example:
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             auto    noauto,owner    0 0

automaticaly mounts floppy and
/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0

mounts CD drive.

For DOS partitions you would need to have a mounting point,
/mnt/dos  for example and have an entry in fstab file

/dev/hdb1	/mnt/dos msdos noauto,owner,rw 0 0

> generally, which files control what Linux does on boot-up?

That's all under /etc. More specificaly /etc/rc.d and other /etc/rc.* 
structure. Files that start with capital S are executed during bootup or 
switch into a particular level, while files with K kill services for that 
level.

/etc/rc?.d is the directory name for level you want to run. In most cases 
level 3 and level 5 are used. Level 1 is for system maintenance and level 
6 for reboot. To switch to different level after boot you run command 
init.

init 3
for level 3.

init 6 to reboot.
init 0 to shutdown.

Files in /etc/rc?.d are links to scripts in /etc/init.d.

There is more to this but it should give you an idea what's going on. 
Unfortunately, RedHat and Linux in general has scripts and network 
configuration too complicated to quickly follow one script after the 
other.

> Thanks.
> John
> 

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Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Janina Sajka]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Dave Mielke wrote:

> [quoted lines by John J. Boyer on December 14, 2001, at 13:48]
> 
> >I would like to mount my dos and wWindows partition on boot-up, without
> >having to log in a root to do so. What file needs to be changed?
> 
> /etc/fstab. Specify vfat for a Windows partition, and MSDOS (to avoid
> accidentally creating a long file name) for a DOS partition.
> 
Do you also need non-root access to read/write on those partitions? 
Something like:

/dev/hda6  /data  vfat  uid=500,gid=500,umask=002,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 0

Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Dave Mielke]

[quoted lines by John J. Boyer on December 14, 2001, at 13:48]

>I would like to mount my dos and wWindows partition on boot-up, without
>having to log in a root to do so. What file needs to be changed?

/etc/fstab. Specify vfat for a Windows partition, and MSDOS (to avoid
accidentally creating a long file name) for a DOS partition.

>More
>generally, which files control what Linux does on boot-up?

Lots of them.

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Re: Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[Thomas Stivers]

The file is /etc/fstab. Read man fstab to see the syntax or you can probably
pick it up from the existing file.

Mounting Dos Partition on Bootup

[John J. Boyer]

Hello,
I would like to mount my dos and wWindows partition on boot-up, without
having to log in a root to do so. What file needs to be changed? More
generally, which files control what Linux does on boot-up?
Thanks.
John