From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wB60CFjU007164 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:12:15 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 012C260E3F; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx13.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.42]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC5356109E for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filtteri.svk.fi (79-134-96-138.cust.suomicom.net [79.134.96.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B493308213F for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filtteri.svk.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439GHp1MNcz1yGs for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 02:12:06 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ijn2.net; h= message-id:references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:date :date:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :mime-version:received:received; s=dkim; t=1544055106; x= 1545869507; bh=rIMPHOWobxjoB6PB1ht9uPHsG66NWLCUz4xkw2zOga4=; b=P azZPYiXa8/C03QEF5GeQiHmjVKcSe2Wgmlkmq4bSQrVLpdmdBZSYolRBkxvc7kjE VpDu8S49HQa84ZM4SNLyozbE7IKneguRQqa5w9QPw0ckwxTWZIWCH/xkaN+6Ijbq rNP831zKBHXahy+9W0MJ3JVKcfj/s4mwcJTmCS+cPYEdkXbZw7v68MW47P2/P0/5 cGd/1OUFWMIy27EUIwXELGRqiEn8ZdhsR3wI/1YrHk9kz1bUVnud7O9H6xUJy8lJ 0PpXf5+T8iRVuBXnV7DpTQ1c9ZI/NEmnGRcXG9JOCpOfyM23gCOdb+X0mQ34vrIw uZKcvZdihea/renee81rg== X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - filtteri.svk.fi X-Virus-Scanned: Scrollout F1 at svk.fi Received: from filtteri.svk.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (filtteri.svk.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JfntXMPZ092J for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 02:11:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from joosua.svk.fi (unknown [192.168.10.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by filtteri.svk.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 439GHQ4nstz1y9x for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 02:11:46 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 02:11:43 +0200 To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Booting Linux with No Video card In-Reply-To: <20181205.223718.433.3@[192.168.1.146]> References: <20181205.212122.046.2@[192.168.1.146]> <10dcfffb1c7ce34509792847ceb7226d@ijn2.net> <20181205.223718.433.3@[192.168.1.146]> Message-ID: <49cb37b3528c353c6c8fafea7d6c459c@ijn2.net> X-Sender: immo.niemela@ijn2.net X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, ACL 238 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.42]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:12:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.42]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:12:10 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'79.134.96.138' DOMAIN:'79-134-96-138.cust.suomicom.net' HELO:'filtteri.svk.fi' FROM:'immo.niemela@svk.fi' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0.563 (DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_PASS) 79.134.96.138 79-134-96-138.cust.suomicom.net 79.134.96.138 79-134-96-138.cust.suomicom.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.110.42 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:12:15 -0000 Linux for blind general discussion wrote on 2018-12-06 22:37 UTC: > Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > < Please note that most desktops have video on the same die (or >> chip) as the cpu just like pretty much everything else but RAM. > > This board has no onboard or integrated video at all. When I plugged > in the stick no debian prompt came up, so I guess I'm stuck and must > order a card. > Oh, well, I did try. Excuse my ignorance but where were you expecting the debian prompt? I have a feeling you haven't provided enough information for anyone to help. Unfortunately it is quite normal on this list. Please try to tell exactly what you are trying to accomplish with what exact hardware setup and scenario. Else we are only guessing. Example (with Kermit and Miss Piggy): I have a Data General One laptop with 512KB RAM 75/1200 bps Hayes Modem connected to COM1: I booted MS-DOS 2.31 for DG One on 3.5" A: drive I then inserted a disk with Kermit version 1.2 on B: drive I then started Kermit and configured it to use COM1: port Kermit told it can't find the port. Then I tried configuring Kermit for COM2: Kermit told it can't find the port. If I use the same Kermit version on my IBM PC XT with 640KB RAM, PC-DOS 3.1 started from 10MB hard drive, 75/1200 bps Hayes Modem connected to COM1: everything just works. What's wrong? Regards, Miss Piggy Resolution: Here we instantly know the exact hardware configuration of those two computers. You most likely need to tell more details on yours. Including how you interact with it. DG One has different serial port hardware than IBM PC XT. They are not register compatible. Kermit reads and writes the registers directly, not via operating system interrupt. Hence Kermit doesn't understand DG One's UART chip. Miss Piggy either needs communications program written specifically for her DG One or such program which uses operating system interrupts. Unfortunately I cannot remember which one worked. It could be it was Kermit which worked and the other didn't.