From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wBFGJvSa024632 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 11:19:57 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id 8E8855796; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx07.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87174450A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com (ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com [17.58.38.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2C20C049582 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1544890791; bh=9GHZDhH1oS9rkqxkMngT/3UrYbDyAocia21/kSbp7VM=; h=From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Date:Subject:Message-Id:To; b=rS5MKuHvH/4lsTqyKj/1RgLaNIgiHx1bBL96m7mZf7JOqWru8ASY2I+SDH+1HeA/Z PNpVkShA8WINykMaWF9dHwduOh44ADK95xmnVB1fOjopapcy2DHbNP1uKITMdj5Jay +tfSt/lwxNYf9a7xTvjnGpbNYaWbhGRxM25DjYpGNnzL6YlJyoYX1xG0ZebAaJLsF7 T4C2tTCQcqRmRfbsgrUsVSjUbVXhrGRRhJtrAAI+aisVtVo0alS7Hu4snDxlY5awbG Ezs5XRcgoWghMigtbVDR4FuvjAyCREcHAlpC9549vEKz7y7A78h7WjHKKOf2Pg8osw yGoupXQleVlXQ== Received: from [192.168.1.104] (45-21-74-213.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [45.21.74.213]) by ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D6B4100163 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:19:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Newbie to linux and a question Message-Id: <35877387-093D-412D-82BE-591E89A206D7@icloud.com> References: <2282C41C-FEE4-4A7A-BFE3-7D97A53306F0@icloud.com> <66D04849-034B-4664-BAC2-7880990BBE73@icloud.com> <001301d49482$16943ce0$43bcb6a0$@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: To: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-12-15_13:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1812150146 X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, Sender IP whitelisted by DNSRBL, ACL 216 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.31]); Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'17.58.38.55' DOMAIN:'ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com' HELO:'ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com' FROM:'mmaslo@icloud.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.11 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS) 17.58.38.55 ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com 17.58.38.55 ms11p00im-qufo17281801.me.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.31 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id wBFGJvSa024632 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:19:57 -0000 Hello may i ask what adrianne. If I do not use that, may I still use orca? Sincerely, Michael maslo > On Dec 15, 2018, at 09:22, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Ubuntu is a Debian Derivative, and while I haven't used it myself for > nearly a decade(I switched to vanilla Debian somewhere around 2010 or > 2011, and have used Knoppix(another Debian derivative) as my > day-to-day OS since late 2012, it is my understanding that Ubuntu > often has some of the most divisive customizations in its default > setup compared to other distros in the Debian family. > > That said, I really can't offer much advice on using Orca as I > essentially have no experience using it with a full Desktop > Environment or with applications other than Firefox, and I keep Orca > around solely because, in my opinion at least, Firefox+Orca provides a > better blind web experience than any text-mode web browser, which is a > real shame considering I can do everything else on a computer from the > command line. > > I'd say give Knoppix a try, but when they stopped releasing a CD > version, they also stopped releasing official images that boot into > Adriane(Knoppix's blind accessibility suite) by default, and while you > only need to change one line of one text file within the .iso to make > Adriane the default boot option, the only means I know of for doing > this requires mounting the iso, copying the contents to a writable > folder, making the edit, and then building a new iso. And while I'm > willing to share the iso where I've already done this, its way too > large for any practical means of sharing files I know of. And while > Knoppix is great as a liveDVD, it does leave quite a bit to be desired > when installed to a hard disc. > > -- > Sincerely, > > Jeffery Wright > Bachelor of Computer Science > President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list