radio and tv tuner cards

radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
winTV stuff work?
If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
with it probably.

RE: radio and tv tuner cards

[Mike Pedersen]

I have an ATI USB TV tuner which I use in Windows.  The software is
extremely inaccessible with JFW, SuperNova and WinEyes.  About the only
features which are usable are the volume and changing channels.  The
last time I looked for Linux drivers for this device they didn't exist.
When I contacted them, ATI wasn't at all helpful so don't think I'd
recommend this one.  

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Subject: radio and tv tuner cards


				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card
that I can use in linux? Does the winTV stuff work? If anyone has used a
winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as working with
wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software that
comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record with
it probably.




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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Janina Sajka]

Absolutely. Start with the files in /usr/src/linux/Documentation, 
particularly devices.txt. Then, look at the hardware compatibility lists 
on sites like Redhat.com, etc.


 On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Brent Harding wrote:

> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
> winTV stuff work?
> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
> with it probably.
> 
> 
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

Cool, was thinking the Wintv go series, don't know if they have FM though,
or AM for that matter. I figured this would eliminate the need for a
separate boombox for radio, and with TV functionality too, an extra bonus.
At 04:50 PM 12/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Absolutely. Start with the files in /usr/src/linux/Documentation, 
>particularly devices.txt. Then, look at the hardware compatibility lists 
>on sites like Redhat.com, etc.
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
>> winTV stuff work?
>> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
>> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
>> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
>> with it probably.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Rafael]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:45:15PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
> winTV stuff work?

Haupauge WinTV works with linux. Most cards with Btree 9xx (I think, it's
at home) chipset supposedly work. I was not able to get the FM working
though. It was changing the frequencies but no sound out of it.

> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
> with it probably.
> 

-- 
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

You probably need to hook a cable to the TV card's line output, and set
that to play back with your sound card some how.
At 02:23 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:45:15PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
>> winTV stuff work?
>
>Haupauge WinTV works with linux. Most cards with Btree 9xx (I think, it's
>at home) chipset supposedly work. I was not able to get the FM working
>though. It was changing the frequencies but no sound out of it.
>
>> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
>> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
>> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
>> with it probably.
>> 
>
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RE: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

USB and linux is going to be hard. I was thinking about the haupauge winTV
pci type cards that work in linux, but I want AM/FM too. I do like AM
sometimes.
At 01:48 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
>I have an ATI USB TV tuner which I use in Windows.  The software is
>extremely inaccessible with JFW, SuperNova and WinEyes.  About the only
>features which are usable are the volume and changing channels.  The
>last time I looked for Linux drivers for this device they didn't exist.
>When I contacted them, ATI wasn't at all helpful so don't think I'd
>recommend this one.  
>
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>On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:45 PM
>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>Subject: radio and tv tuner cards
>
>
>				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card
>that I can use in linux? Does the winTV stuff work? If anyone has used a
>winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as working with
>wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software that
>comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record with
>it probably.
>
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>
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Rafael]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:19:54PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> You probably need to hook a cable to the TV card's line output, and set
> that to play back with your sound card some how.

TV card is connected to sound card with a cable. I have Hauppauge WinTV
PCI card with TV, FM radio, and S video input for external camera. The
card has Brooktree chipset BT848 for handling video.

Different Linux distributions handle it differently. I found that Mandrake 
is the best to take advantage of this card and other somewhat exotic 
peripherals.

> At 02:23 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:45:15PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux? Does the
> >> winTV stuff work?
> >
> >Haupauge WinTV works with linux. Most cards with Btree 9xx (I think, it's
> >at home) chipset supposedly work. I was not able to get the FM working
> >though. It was changing the frequencies but no sound out of it.
> >
> >> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as far as
> >> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the software
> >> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
> >> with it probably.
> >> 
> >
> >-- 
> >Rafael
> >

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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

Does it have AM radio? Is there a compatible card that does, or a software
controllable a/b switch so I can use a separate radio only card, and
schedule switching as the beginning of record script? Like for sample
#!/bin/sh
switch a
whatever program with arguments to do recording here

The trouble with two devices is the need for two inputs.
At 09:59 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:19:54PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> You probably need to hook a cable to the TV card's line output, and set
>> that to play back with your sound card some how.
>
>TV card is connected to sound card with a cable. I have Hauppauge WinTV
>PCI card with TV, FM radio, and S video input for external camera. The
>card has Brooktree chipset BT848 for handling video.
>
>Different Linux distributions handle it differently. I found that Mandrake 
>is the best to take advantage of this card and other somewhat exotic 
>peripherals.
>
>> At 02:23 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
>> >On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:45:15PM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> >> 				Is there any good TV/radio tuner card that I can use in linux?
Does the
>> >> winTV stuff work?
>> >
>> >Haupauge WinTV works with linux. Most cards with Btree 9xx (I think, it's
>> >at home) chipset supposedly work. I was not able to get the FM working
>> >though. It was changing the frequencies but no sound out of it.
>> >
>> >> If anyone has used a winTV in the other M OS, how is the software as
far as
>> >> working with wineyes? I want a linux-compatible one so that if the
software
>> >> that comes with isn't that friendly, I can use linux and cron to record
>> >> with it probably.
>> >> 
>> >
>> >-- 
>> >Rafael
>> >
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Rafael]

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:08:36AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> Does it have AM radio? Is there a compatible card that does, or a software

No, just FM. Can't expect everything on one card. Radio, TV and whatever 
else has to do with radio waves is difficult to design for PC with so much 
noise inside a typical PC.

> controllable a/b switch so I can use a separate radio only card, and
> schedule switching as the beginning of record script? Like for sample
> #!/bin/sh
> switch a
> whatever program with arguments to do recording here

You would be better off if you buy a good scanner or a receiver that
covers wide range of frequencies with option for computer control over 
RS-232 and setup recording with generic sound card.

> 
> The trouble with two devices is the need for two inputs.

-- 
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

Oh, anything that's linux compatible? I pretty much want AM and FM, but
would take the TV feature too, what would I use that would cause recording
to stop automatically? For the TV stuff, was going to use the vcr program
from the linuxdoc vcr howto, and it's able to be set to record a certain
time length. My machine happens to have two physical com ports anyways, so
that can work.
At 12:06 AM 12/15/01 -0800, you wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:08:36AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> Does it have AM radio? Is there a compatible card that does, or a software
>
>No, just FM. Can't expect everything on one card. Radio, TV and whatever 
>else has to do with radio waves is difficult to design for PC with so much 
>noise inside a typical PC.
>
>> controllable a/b switch so I can use a separate radio only card, and
>> schedule switching as the beginning of record script? Like for sample
>> #!/bin/sh
>> switch a
>> whatever program with arguments to do recording here
>
>You would be better off if you buy a good scanner or a receiver that
>covers wide range of frequencies with option for computer control over 
>RS-232 and setup recording with generic sound card.
>
>> 
>> The trouble with two devices is the need for two inputs.
>
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Janina Sajka]

Well, if you really want to go way out for all kinds of goodies, you might 
want to think in terms of something external to the computer that can 
still be controlled from your computer. I haven't done this myself, but 
have it on pretty good authority that the radios from Icom can be driven 
from linux. Look at http://www.icomamerica.com.
 On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Brent 
Harding wrote:

> Oh, anything that's linux compatible? I pretty much want AM and FM, but
> would take the TV feature too, what would I use that would cause recording
> to stop automatically? For the TV stuff, was going to use the vcr program
> from the linuxdoc vcr howto, and it's able to be set to record a certain
> time length. My machine happens to have two physical com ports anyways, so
> that can work.
> At 12:06 AM 12/15/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:08:36AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> Does it have AM radio? Is there a compatible card that does, or a software
> >
> >No, just FM. Can't expect everything on one card. Radio, TV and whatever 
> >else has to do with radio waves is difficult to design for PC with so much 
> >noise inside a typical PC.
> >
> >> controllable a/b switch so I can use a separate radio only card, and
> >> schedule switching as the beginning of record script? Like for sample
> >> #!/bin/sh
> >> switch a
> >> whatever program with arguments to do recording here
> >
> >You would be better off if you buy a good scanner or a receiver that
> >covers wide range of frequencies with option for computer control over 
> >RS-232 and setup recording with generic sound card.
> >
> >> 
> >> The trouble with two devices is the need for two inputs.
> >
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> >
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

And what kind of recording software would I use for telling it to record
for 3 hours and then quit? Will three hours, or however many hours always
take the same amount of disk space that I could use quota to terminate
recording?
At 02:38 PM 12/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, if you really want to go way out for all kinds of goodies, you might 
>want to think in terms of something external to the computer that can 
>still be controlled from your computer. I haven't done this myself, but 
>have it on pretty good authority that the radios from Icom can be driven 
>from linux. Look at http://www.icomamerica.com.
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Brent 
>Harding wrote:
>
>> Oh, anything that's linux compatible? I pretty much want AM and FM, but
>> would take the TV feature too, what would I use that would cause recording
>> to stop automatically? For the TV stuff, was going to use the vcr program
>> from the linuxdoc vcr howto, and it's able to be set to record a certain
>> time length. My machine happens to have two physical com ports anyways, so
>> that can work.
>> At 12:06 AM 12/15/01 -0800, you wrote:
>> >On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 12:08:36AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> >> Does it have AM radio? Is there a compatible card that does, or a
software
>> >
>> >No, just FM. Can't expect everything on one card. Radio, TV and whatever 
>> >else has to do with radio waves is difficult to design for PC with so
much 
>> >noise inside a typical PC.
>> >
>> >> controllable a/b switch so I can use a separate radio only card, and
>> >> schedule switching as the beginning of record script? Like for sample
>> >> #!/bin/sh
>> >> switch a
>> >> whatever program with arguments to do recording here
>> >
>> >You would be better off if you buy a good scanner or a receiver that
>> >covers wide range of frequencies with option for computer control over 
>> >RS-232 and setup recording with generic sound card.
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> The trouble with two devices is the need for two inputs.
>> >
>> >-- 
>> >Rafael
>> >
>> >
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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Ari Moisio]

HI!

Janina Sajka 15.12.01:

>still be controlled from your computer. I haven't done this myself, but
>have it on pretty good authority that the radios from Icom can be driven
>from linux. Look at http://www.icomamerica.com.

  I use Icom pcr-1000 in Linux with Icomlib
http://www.philtered.net/icomlib.phtml
  and it works quite nicely. I have connected it into the soundcard via
mic input but never actually recorded anythin, just listened.

  I think it is however possible to limit record time with dd or head
commands, somethin like:
head -c28800000 /dev/audio > radio.au
should record one hour with tolerable sound quality.

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Re: radio and tv tuner cards

[Brent Harding]

I thought the icom stuff was ham radio stuff though, maybe not though,
online I was found antena tuners, but that probaly not quite the thing.
At 12:45 PM 12/16/01 +0200, you wrote:
>HI!
>
>Janina Sajka 15.12.01:
>
>>still be controlled from your computer. I haven't done this myself, but
>>have it on pretty good authority that the radios from Icom can be driven
>>from linux. Look at http://www.icomamerica.com.
>
>  I use Icom pcr-1000 in Linux with Icomlib
>http://www.philtered.net/icomlib.phtml
>  and it works quite nicely. I have connected it into the soundcard via
>mic input but never actually recorded anythin, just listened.
>
>  I think it is however possible to limit record time with dd or head
>commands, somethin like:
>head -c28800000 /dev/audio > radio.au
>should record one hour with tolerable sound quality.
>
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RE: radio and tv tuner cards

[Jude DaShiell]

I have a usb mouse and an iomega 31475 cd burner that's also usb on my red
hat 7.0 system.  redhat finds the mouse fine, and it can be used and it
also finds the usb drive and makes it click on boot up but then it can't
identify it further and leaves it unuseable after boot up.  That leaves me
wondering what red hat uses to interrogate usb devices.  If there was
something like setserial I might be able to figure out how to get that
drive working.  If lspci could be used like grep so you could focus in on
one particular device I might be able to get information on the drive that
way.  We were talking about tape drives before the shellworld.net hack,
and  later I tried using the taper program if it's installed it may only
be a matter of telling it what port you hung your tape drive on and you
get  a menu driven backup restore interface.  Interestingly, it said
magnetic tape drive not found use the -t option when I started it up so
red hat isn't even with kudzu all that effective in detecting parallel
port tape drives.  When it comes up it tells me I have an unknown class
device tapedrive on lP0.

Parallel ftape drive (was: RE: radio and tv tuner cards)

[L. C. Robinson]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> ...We were talking about tape drives before the shellworld.net hack,
<snip>
> red hat isn't even with kudzu all that effective in detecting parallel
> port tape drives.  When it comes up it tells me I have an unknown class
> device tapedrive on lP0.

Well this is pretty sketchy, but I'm guessing you need the ftape driver, 
and a rundown on how to get it working.  The ftape driver modules Red Hat
ships are hopelessly out of date (stock kernel distribution -- old,old,old).

Here's a couple of sites that can help (you'll no doubt have to get
the unstable version -- the "stable" one is not really usable).

Ftape site:
http://zeus.instmath.rwth-aachen.de/~heine/ftape/

Here's a vendor that has helped with instructions on getting things
working, but I don't know if they have kept things up to date:
http://www.LinuxTapeCert.org/
click on TechHelp

-- 
L. C. Robinson
reply to lcr@onewest.net

People buy MicroShaft for compatibility, but get incompatibility and
instability instead.  This is award winning "innovation".  Find
out how MS holds your data hostage with "The *Lens*"; see
"CyberSnare" at http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html