From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.44.254]) by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91C7403BC for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB6NQdp19840 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:26:39 -0500 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id fB6NQd015269 for blinux-list@listman.redhat.com; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:26:39 -0500 Received: from mail1.netacc.net (mail1.netacc.net [208.34.108.26]) by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fB6NQdw15265 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:26:39 -0500 Received: from bharding (algoma-host11.doorpi.net [12.37.10.16]) by mail1.netacc.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fB6NQb266748 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:26:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011206173027.008c49d0@mail.doorpi.net> X-Sender: bharding@mail.doorpi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 17:30:27 -0600 To: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Brent Harding Subject: Re: some comments on software platform accessibility In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Loop: blinux-list@redhat.com Sender: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com Errors-To: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've used windows quite a bit, but I'm starting to try linux, my isp gives shell access, they affiliate through netacc.net, don't know how small that company is, but dns is fairly slow and I get disconnected at night, stuck with dialup. Once I go to school though, they'll be getting t1 in the dorms in January, so with luck it might be there before I am, or else aol it is as the other isp would likely filter this group out with declude.com's software, a friend used that isp, and headers showed such. At 04:29 PM 12/6/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > >Thank you for your comments. I see from your e-mail address that you are >from Finnland. I am from the USA. Here in the states, training centers for >the blind never heard of linux. Linux is a foreign word to them. The only >thing they know is speech with eloquence and Jaws For Windows. The only >networking that big businesses in the states seem to know these days is >Windows NT, unless they are small ISP's. But, with DSL and cable modems >taking over here in the USA, small ISP's are being pushed out of business >by big cable and telephone companies. It's the way they have the pricing >structured around here. For example, to get DSL here you need to pay your >telephone company that provides you with local service for your DSL >connection. Then they will usually give you your ISP connection for free >because you are paying them for the digital DSL service on your local >phone line with your local service. Here in my local area, DSL is $49.00 a >month. Now, if you go to an outside provider, an ISP who provides DSL, >they will usually charge you $10 to $15 monthly for an IP address. But, >you still have to pay your local phone company for the DSL connection, not >your ISP. So, when the phone company gives you an ip address for free, >what are you going to do? You are more than likely going to drop your old >ISP and save yourself $15 a month. Right? > >I am happy to see that Europe is more progressive in how it approaches >technology. Thank you for sharing this information with us. > >-- >Bill Gaughan >wgaughan@snet.net > > >On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Ari Moisio wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Comments on comments: >> >> First there is lot of job opportunities within file, mail and >> webserver maintenance. MOst of those use some *x operating system. Most >> of those have no configuration interface, just a bunch of text files to >> edit. No menus, no buttons, no dialogues, no bitmaps, no images and no >> accessibility problems. >> >> Secondly: ever after learnign windows and all tricks of his/her >> screenreader with every program used blind worker should be equally or >> more productive than sighted colleagues who can sinply look the screen. >> >> This difference exists of ccourse in *x environment too but there it >> is mainly reading speed, not figuring layout of the screen. >> >> As a sidenote: local training center for the blind planned to keep >> course on Linux but they had severe problems to find a teacher; all >> blind advanced LInux users they askedwere too busy with their own jobs. >> >> Fortunately they found finally one who volunteered because it was >> Linux course. >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Blinux-list mailing list >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >