Re: linux, and audio.

[Brent Harding <bharding@doorpi.net>]

Is there a decent sound editor to use in linux?
At 07:14 PM 11/25/01 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Bill Gaughan wrote:
>
>> ... And, how come some live365 sites let you have access with
>> "trplayer" thru "lynx" and others don't?
>
>I see all too many sites going exclusively with the M$ Windoze
>Media Player, with it's ultimate proprietary lock in.  Take
>comfort in the fact that M$ has been a consistent failure in it's
>efforts to co-opt the internet and it's protocols, and that
>they're now, by their own admission, running scared of Linux.  So
>vendors and stations will soon wise up, and switch to something
>more open (if they survive).
>
>In the meantime, the internet has a vast selection of alternative
>sites.  I used to chuckle at the sites that tried to register
>you, and even tried to charge fees for access.  Some wannabees
>just don't have a clue about the internet, and that includes most
>of the old media (ABC, MSNBC, CBS, big newspapers and magazines,
>etc) with their carefully filtered news and old media biases
>(don't you just love trying to navigate their stupidly designed
>sites)?  They are now all bleeding cash heavily, and many are
>dying, even as the New Media, exemplified by the leading
>www.wnd.com, and the new media sites they link to, prosper (while
>the Old Media pretend that that ALL the internet media are
>failing with them).
>
>> ...we have simply got to find a way around this "unsupported
>> url scheme" message we all get when we try to invoke JavaScript
>> in lynx.
>
>The solution of a previous poster (checking the HTML source for
>the URL) is maybe the most sensible idea for now.  Automated
>solutions will come with time.  And vote with your feet for the
>new media sites that have a clue about the internet, and real
>content.
>
>> I fear that lynx and maybe linux, will soon be useless to us
>> all unless we gain full meaningful and understandable access to
>> X-Windows and X applications like Netscape for Linux. I fear
>> that, once again, we will be left behind, or forced to stumble
>> thru the jumble of MS Windows software products.
>
>There's nothing to worry about there.  This concern comes up from
>time to time on this list, among newbies to linux.  You can
>consult the list archives for detailed discussions.  I will only
>comment that once you understand the Unix philosophy (there are
>HOWTOs and FAQs on this), you will understand why text based apps
>continue to grow at an astonishing rate, and how much power
>exists in this arena (GUI apps can never hope to approach that
>level of functionality and power).  Increasing, the GUI apps are
>just dumbed down front ends on top of these text and script based
>apps, or (often somewhat limited) alternative interfaces added to
>them.
>
>> Until computers and the computer hardware and software industry
>> develop national and international uniform standards,
>
>You mean, like the development of the internet and Open Source?
><grin>
>
>> computers will continue to be useful toys.
>
>You may realize that M$ OS software has been routinely referred
>to as a toy on many expert discussion lists, for some time now,
>and for good reason.
>
>> Just look at what a disaster internet radio has become with the
>> folding of netradio.com last month. Not to speak of the
>> disaster the dispute over royalty pay to announcers and
>> advertising actors has done to internet radio. Many broadcasts
>> have pulled content from the internet because of the fear of
>> lawsuits, because the actors guild that records the
>> advertisements wants to be payed twice on their royalties, once
>> for conventional media (radio) and again for being broadcast on
>> the internet.
>
>Not familar with this.  Sounds like more of the typical problems
>with the Old Media paradigm.  Just be patient -- it's becoming
>increasingly obvious that there's nothing the old media giants
>can do to stop, or even slow the change.  A good example is the
>recent discussion here of DRM (basically copy protection), as it
>relates to some new accessibility and electronic book standards.
>For an excellent discussion of what the old media are up against,
>just in the DRM area, in mp3 format, see:
>
>http://www.ima.umn.edu/recordings/Public_Lecture/2000-2001/feb_12_01/schnei
er-24.mp3
>
>It is about 15 meg, so you may wish to download it at night, if
>you don't have a fast connection.  This is a lecture, followed by
>discussion, by Bruce Schneier, a world authority in computer
>security and cryptology.  This guy has a talent for explaining
>complicated issues in terms even ordinary mortals can follow, and
>he even manages to make it entertaining much of the time.  If you
>want more info in text format, see his site at
>http://www.counterpane.com/ (hint, search for "copy protection"
>and "snake oil").
>
>Note that we have come full circle here, to the original
>question, which was about accessible audio formats: M$ is
>promising what it can never deliver to content vendors (nor can
>anyone), in terms of DRM.  Eventually even the dumbest of M$
>customers (publishers and broadcasters) will get wise to the
>scam (well, ok, the survivors anyway).
>
>LCR
>
>-- 
>L. C. Robinson
>reply to no_spam+munged_lcr@onewest.net.invalid
>
>People buy MicroShaft for compatibility, but get incompatibility and
>instability instead.  This is award winning "innovation".  Find
>out how MS holds your data hostage with "The *Lens*"; see
>"CyberSnare" at http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html
>
>
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