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From: Brent Harding <bharding@doorpi.net>
To: blinux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Digital Talking Book Standard
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011119224546.0081c520@mail.doorpi.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011119113136.B8371@dalek.dhs.org>

Free software is the best, but with this type of thing, there's little
benefit to us to want the problems fixed. It's the publishers that want all
this security, not the people using the content, but in almost every other
situation, everyone hates the holes.
At 11:31 AM 11/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:06:39AM -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>> I don't think the drm will work in the long run. It has to be proprietary
>> to not allow hacking, anyone who has the source code can hack a program to
>> undo what the original did. 
>
>Anything (proprietary or not) can be hacked, given enough time and
>skill. This has to be the worst argument for proprietary software I've
>seen. As I've seen written somewhere...security by obscurity is no
>security at all. What does a proprietary security system have that a
>free one doesn't have? Well, let's see. No checks against sloppy
>programming. Look at the deal with Adobe's Ebook format; that Russian
>fellow found a way to get into it, gave a talk about it, and was
>arrested, jailed, and is now on trial for copyright infringement. Did
>he actually infringe anyone's copyright? Did he actually steal
>anyone's work? No, he pointed out a security flaw and told someone how
>it could be exploited. Rather than being glad of the feedback so the
>problem could be fixed, Adobe sent the feds after him! That isn't
>security. Now if these guys had used a free standard, any security
>holes could be found and addressed. It's a much better deal for
>everyone. And eventually (I say eventually because human beings are
>pretty stupid about things sometimes), people who should already know
>better but don't will see that free software really is good for all of
>us. I firmly believe that that is where our future lies.
>-- 
>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
>Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
>Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
>ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~ UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Martin G. McCormick
 ` Saqib Shaikh
   ` Peter Toneby
     ` Janina Sajka
       ` Peter Toneby
         ` Nicolas Pitre
           ` Peter Toneby
             ` Lloyd G. Rasmussen
             ` Nicolas Pitre
     ` Nicolas Pitre
       ` Peter Toneby
       ` Janina Sajka
         ` Nicolas Pitre
           ` Janina Sajka
             ` Nicolas Pitre
           ` Brent Harding
             ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111191409370.3206-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
             ` Brent Harding
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111191147560.2815-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
         ` Brent Harding
           ` Nicolas Pitre
             ` Joel Zimba
               ` Brent Harding
             ` Brent Harding
               ` Nicolas Pitre
   ` philwh
 ` Janina Sajka
 ` Brent Harding
   ` Buddy Brannan
     ` Brent Harding [this message]
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111191114500.2815-100000@toccata.grg.afb.ne t>
   ` Brent Harding
     ` Luke Davis
       ` cbowman
         ` ssh A. R. Vener
           ` ssh cbowman
           ` ssh Luke Davis
             ` ssh Andor Demarteau
               ` ssh Luke Davis
               ` ssh Fredrik Larsson
                 ` ssh Luke Davis
                   ` ssh Fredrik Larsson
             ` ssh cbowman
               ` ssh A. R. Vener
             ` ssh A. R. Vener
               ` ssh Luke Davis
         ` Digital Talking Book Standard Brent Harding
           ` cbowman
         ` Luke Davis
           ` cbowman
       ` Janina Sajka
     ` Pratik Patel
       ` Brent Harding
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
 Janina Sajka

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