RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out

[Brent Harding <bharding@doorpi.net>]

Don't know, too hard just for this type of thing. One would probably have
to be pretty good for the devices to recognize anything usefull anyways,
from what I hear of them.
At 08:30 AM 11/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
>why not learn to write? *smirk*
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:21 PM
>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>
>
>One problem, handwriting recognition would be useless to me. Does the ipaq
>have an accessible form of input, keyboard, etc?
>At 05:01 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>Same price?  An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven,
>>but you don't need the color resolution.  The Elva is what?
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote:
>>
>>> have a read of handhelds.org  it pretty well describes the process for
>the
>>> ipaq 3600...
>>>
>>> I've seen descriptions for other devices.  it's mostly the same...
>>>
>>> presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux
>loader
>>> you would install...
>>> I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but
>>> certainly possible.
>>>
>>> and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists
>>> which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you.
>>>
>>> Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming
>>> months.
>>> now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the
>>> level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically.
>>>
>>> time shall tell,
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>>> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM
>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>>>
>>>
>>> I suppose, how would one even do this?
>>> At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba...
>>> >
>>> >now you see the point?
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>>> >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>>> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM
>>> >To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it
>installed
>>> >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be
>like
>>> >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily
>>> >implemented with linux on a microdrive.
>>> >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll
>gladly
>>> >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!!
>>> >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill
>>> >>display.
>>> >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata?
>>> >>J
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>>> >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
>>> >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM
>>> >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is
>>> >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible.
>>> >>
>>> >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet
>>> >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin>
>>> >>
>>> >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS
>>> >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's
>>> >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no
>>> >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they
>>> >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air.
>>> >>
>>> >> On
>>> >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so
>if
>>> >>you
>>> >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get
>>> >linux
>>> >>> on a braille note?
>>> >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever
>you
>>> >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of
>course.
>>> >We
>>> >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux
>installation
>>> >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and
>kde,
>>> >>but
>>> >>> >I've been wrong before.
>>> >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My
>laptop
>>> >>isn't
>>> >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in
>to
>>> >the
>>> >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable
>>> out
>>> >>and
>>> >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise.
>>> >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd
>want
>>> >to
>>> >>> use
>>> >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It
>>> >>definately
>>> >>> >> has
>>> >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. It does have a
>>> built
>>> >>in
>>> >>> >> >> microphone.
>>> >>> >> >> Tommy
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
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