RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out

[Brent Harding <bharding@doorpi.net>]

One problem, handwriting recognition would be useless to me. Does the ipaq
have an accessible form of input, keyboard, etc?
At 05:01 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Same price?  An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven,
>but you don't need the color resolution.  The Elva is what?
>
>
>On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote:
>
>> have a read of handhelds.org  it pretty well describes the process for the
>> ipaq 3600...
>>
>> I've seen descriptions for other devices.  it's mostly the same...
>>
>> presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux
loader
>> you would install...
>> I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but
>> certainly possible.
>>
>> and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists
>> which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you.
>>
>> Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming
>> months.
>> now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the
>> level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically.
>>
>> time shall tell,
>>
>> J
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM
>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>>
>>
>> I suppose, how would one even do this?
>> At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba...
>> >
>> >now you see the point?
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>> >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding
>> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM
>> >To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>> >
>> >
>> >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it installed
>> >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be like
>> >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily
>> >implemented with linux on a microdrive.
>> >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll gladly
>> >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!!
>> >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill
>> >>display.
>> >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata?
>> >>J
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com
>> >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
>> >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM
>> >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is
>> >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible.
>> >>
>> >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet
>> >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin>
>> >>
>> >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS
>> >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's
>> >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no
>> >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they
>> >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air.
>> >>
>> >> On
>> >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so if
>> >>you
>> >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get
>> >linux
>> >>> on a braille note?
>> >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever
you
>> >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of course.
>> >We
>> >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux
installation
>> >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and kde,
>> >>but
>> >>> >I've been wrong before.
>> >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My laptop
>> >>isn't
>> >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in to
>> >the
>> >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable
>> out
>> >>and
>> >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise.
>> >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd want
>> >to
>> >>> use
>> >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It
>> >>definately
>> >>> >> has
>> >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. It does have a
>> built
>> >>in
>> >>> >> >> microphone.
>> >>> >> >> Tommy
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
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