Re: talking terminals

[Brent Harding <bharding@mail.ufw2.com>]

When the floppy noise completes, just like normal, just using the phone
lines instead of serial ports. Can networking work the same thing, like
text eth0?
At 10:25 PM 8/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
>It should work over a modem.
>I just plugged the serial terminal into com1, fired it up and loaded commo
and jaws for dos.
>I put the floppy into the drive, and puthe cdrom into its drive,
>and booted the computer. at the boot prompt,
>which i detected by listening for floppy drive noise, i typed the command
>i mentioned below.
>The only thing I could see wrong with a modem installation, is knowing when
>to type the command.
>phil
>On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:08:21PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
>> Would it do the same over modem? Did you put the CD in the machine to
>> install on, or do you have to upload it off the machine you use as a
>> terminal? What if I do it, substituting the port my modem uses? At 09:11 PM
>> 8/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
>> >I must say you are completely incorrect. I have installed linux
>> >using a serial terminal dozens of times since 1994 when I started
>> >with linux.
>> >I have installed both slackware and redhat using a serial
>> >terminal, the most recent last
>> >friday afternoon when I installed
>> >redhat 6.2 on my computer at work without any sighted help whatsoever.
>> >just for anyone who wishes to know how,
>> >at the boot prompt after booting the installation floppy from redhat,
>> >type the following command to install using a 
>> >serial terminal, or more acurately a serial console:
>> >text console=ttyS0,9600n8
>> >or in my case since i was impatient,
>> >text console=ttyS0,115200n8
>> >
>> >it worked without a problem.
>> >
>> >phil
>> >
>> >On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:56:03AM -0700, cbrannon1979@earthlink.net
wrote:
>> >> I was reading all the discussion about talking terminals yesterday.  The
>> >> way I see it, they have a very big disadvantage to a screenreader for a
>> >> blind person with a hardware synthesizer.  You need sighted help to
install
>> >> Linux with a talking terminal.  And IMNSHO, a sighted person reading a
>> screen
>> >> for me is a very poor substitute for speech output, especially if you're
>> >> like me, and don't
>> >> know anyone in your area who uses Linux.  I installed Zipspeak with
>> absolutely
>> >> zero sighted assistance.  And as far as I can tell, kernels built with
>> >> Speakup can do this for full distributions, as well.  This would make
>> >> Linux the only operating system that can be installed by someone who is
>> blind
>> >> without sighted help.  Maybe I could install DOS on my own, if I'd
done it
>> >> enough, but I wouldn't have the computer actually talking to me while
I was
>> >> installing.  And, with Speakup you get speech from bootup to power
>> >> down.  Only thing that
>> >> won't talk to you now is the BIOS, and there's supposedly a board you
>> can get
>> >> that'll send the BIOS messages out the serial port.    Compare this
>> setup to
>> >> Win-95, where speech isn't necessarily constant, even if you're booted
>> and the 
>> >> screenreader's active.  (JFW crashes so easy its sick.)
>> >> But getting back to the topic of talking terminals. Anyone remember the
>> >> old Apple II computer from the seventies?  That's what I started out
>> >> on; and I seem to remember that the synthesizer for those was only about
>> >> $150, or so.  Question is, if a blind person doesn't have a hardware
>> >> synth, would it be possible to use an Apple II as a terminal under
>> >> Linux?  You can still find them, once in a while, and like I said, the
>> >> synth was cheap, even new.  I seem to remember them having a serial
port,
>> >> so I'd think they could be usable as talking terminals, for someone with
>> >> limited funds who doesn't have, and can't afford a hardware synthesizer.
>> >> Later.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
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