seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Brent Harding]

		I just heard, on an ad banner that freeweb.com has gone bankrupt, and
juno bought the subscriber base. As we know, Juno is for windows and mac
only, and my experience shows it's not that accessible. Do they use
standard ppp protocol, pop3 for email, etc, or what are they doing that's
making it hard for linux to use?

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Victor Tsaran]

Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide SMTP
service.
Regards,
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@mail.ufw2.com>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service


| I just heard, on an ad banner that freeweb.com has gone bankrupt, and
| juno bought the subscriber base. As we know, Juno is for windows and mac
| only, and my experience shows it's not that accessible. Do they use
| standard ppp protocol, pop3 for email, etc, or what are they doing that's
| making it hard for linux to use?
|
|
|
| _______________________________________________
| Blinux-list mailing list
| Blinux-list@redhat.com
| https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Mike Gorse]

Do they provide pop service?  You really don't need your ISP to provide
you with a SMTP server if you run Linux.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:

> Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide SMTP
> service.
> Regards,
> Vic
> 

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Victor Tsaran]

Well, you have to buy POP3 access. BUt would you care about POP3? I mean, you
can just access most of POP servers without having to go through your ISP.
Regards,
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gorse" <mgorse@WPI.EDU>
To: <blinux-list@redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service


| Do they provide pop service?  You really don't need your ISP to provide
| you with a SMTP server if you run Linux.
|
| On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
|
| > Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide
SMTP
| > service.
| > Regards,
| > Vic
| >
|
|
|
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Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Brent Harding]

Are there any with toll-free access? I'll especially have the problem of
getting online from other locations with my provider, as I can't run two
machines off the same ip address. Especially if I get dsl, the dialup
account is always assigned the same IP, and when the dsl eventually comes
to my area, that ip will be used by the dsl too, thus a conflict. It'd seem
easier for on the go access to use some toll free provider so I don't have
to upgrade my kernel again to get rid of the root exploit that's associated
with ipmasquerading, much less, I just went with default kernel
configuration from the kernel-image-2.2.15 debian package and used it's
config to compile my speakup enabled kernel. Although, i had to have
someone help me turn stuff off, as the kernel was so large it gave an
error. I played with ipchains once before, and it made it so I couldn't
access the net, so, that didn't work, I played with a script called instand
firewall, it wants a 3-way firewall, the only ip I know is the one that
people from the outside see me as, the inside, and periphery I don't know
what to put in, so I made them up, although it's one machine right now, all
I'm using.

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Brent Harding]

You do if you use pine, the host, like myname.dhs.org is what gets put on
every outgoing message, thus the need of something to hold mail while
offline, which I have yet to find. I've heard of uucp, never used it, and
find it requires me to actually dial someone else on a scheduled basis,
which would make me need to have a power-level scheduler that can tell the
machine to boot linux instead of windows, as my default is windows for the
rest of the family. I used to have it wait at a lilo prompt until I
specified, but I had lost files on my system when I used the wrong command
to back up, and had to reinstall. I didn't know how to specify the message
to make it wait, or to beep when it's ready.
>Do they provide pop service?  You really don't need your ISP to provide
>you with a SMTP server if you run Linux.
>
>On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>
>> Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide
SMTP
>> service.
>> Regards,
>> Vic
>> 
>
>
>
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Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Brent Harding]

Some firewall it so you can't, my old service let me use both pop and smtp
from the new provider. The old one terminated the account now, but their
dial-in seemed to not get me logged in, so I used the new provider to
download mail, unsubscribe from the lists I was on, and switch
subscriptions, after changing to the new servers to the new provider.
Actually, I tested once, I connected by telnet to the old provider's mail
server, did a mail from:bharding@ufw2.com and an rcpt
to:bharding@mylinuxbox.dynodns.net, where that is to be replaced with the
real name, and the message went right on through (shows how little they
knew on controlling spam).

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Luke Davis]

As I have said many times before, I believe such topics are still off
topic for blinux-list, and should probably be on linux-l@softcon.com.

However...

If you want mail queued while you are off line, have someone such as
Undergrid Network Services (undergrid.net) set up a POP account (or series
thereof) for you under your *.dhs.org MX records.  Then have your system
do a fetchmail on those POPs.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Harding wrote:

> You do if you use pine, the host, like myname.dhs.org is what gets put on
> every outgoing message, thus the need of something to hold mail while
> offline, which I have yet to find. I've heard of uucp, never used it, and
> find it requires me to actually dial someone else on a scheduled basis,
> which would make me need to have a power-level scheduler that can tell the
> machine to boot linux instead of windows, as my default is windows for the
> rest of the family. I used to have it wait at a lilo prompt until I
> specified, but I had lost files on my system when I used the wrong command
> to back up, and had to reinstall. I didn't know how to specify the message
> to make it wait, or to beep when it's ready.
> >Do they provide pop service?  You really don't need your ISP to provide
> >you with a SMTP server if you run Linux.
> >
> >On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> >
> >> Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide
> SMTP
> >> service.
> >> Regards,
> >> Vic
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
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[Raul A. Gallegos]

Greetings everyone.  I passed this along before however it seemed no one was interested at the time so I'll try again just in ase.

I've created an evoice mailbox called blinux00 25468900.  this mailbox group is so that all blinux-ers can get together and either chat about Linux and how we 
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PS: I apologize if this is off-topic.



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icq and evoice # 5283055
http://www.asmodean.net

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[A. R. Vener]

Try freeatlast.com

Rudy

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> 		I just heard, on an ad banner that freeweb.com has gone bankrupt, and
> juno bought the subscriber base. As we know, Juno is for windows and mac
> only, and my experience shows it's not that accessible. Do they use
> standard ppp protocol, pop3 for email, etc, or what are they doing that's
> making it hard for linux to use?
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 

Re: seems like the free isp for linux is out of service

[Brent Harding]

Cool, I suppose that might work. I suppose the only thing might be aliases,
if my system needs to forward to a bunch of addresses, this, however might
be what I'm looking for, at least until I get control of a permanently
connected system that I could just set up whatever, but that's probably far
in the future.
At 11:48 PM 8/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>As I have said many times before, I believe such topics are still off
>topic for blinux-list, and should probably be on linux-l@softcon.com.
>
>However...
>
>If you want mail queued while you are off line, have someone such as
>Undergrid Network Services (undergrid.net) set up a POP account (or series
>thereof) for you under your *.dhs.org MX records.  Then have your system
>do a fetchmail on those POPs.
>
>On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>> You do if you use pine, the host, like myname.dhs.org is what gets put on
>> every outgoing message, thus the need of something to hold mail while
>> offline, which I have yet to find. I've heard of uucp, never used it, and
>> find it requires me to actually dial someone else on a scheduled basis,
>> which would make me need to have a power-level scheduler that can tell the
>> machine to boot linux instead of windows, as my default is windows for the
>> rest of the family. I used to have it wait at a lilo prompt until I
>> specified, but I had lost files on my system when I used the wrong command
>> to back up, and had to reinstall. I didn't know how to specify the message
>> to make it wait, or to beep when it's ready.
>> >Do they provide pop service?  You really don't need your ISP to provide
>> >you with a SMTP server if you run Linux.
>> >
>> >On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>> >
>> >> Freeatlast.com seems like a pretty good service, but they don't provide
>> SMTP
>> >> service.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Vic
>> >> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Blinux-list mailing list
>> >Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Brent Harding wrote:

> Cool, I suppose that might work. I suppose the only thing might be aliases,
> if my system needs to forward to a bunch of addresses, this, however might
> be what I'm looking for, at least until I get control of a permanently
> connected system that I could just set up whatever, but that's probably far
> in the future.
> At 11:48 PM 8/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >As I have said many times before, I believe such topics are still off
> >topic for blinux-list, and should probably be on linux-l@softcon.com.
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