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Audio description is usually slotted between dialo= g in tv shows and movies, so I'm not sure this approach would work for the = type of content you are talking about. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Morin To: Linux for blind general discussion Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:37:27 -0700 Subject: making YouTube (etc) videos more accessible? > The discussion of scanning and converting PDFs reminded me of a topic I'v= e thought about a number of times. Perhaps some folks here will be interes= ted... > > I watch a lot of conference presentations on YouTube (etc). Typically, = these have been edited into a collage, showing the speaker, a display scree= n, and perhaps some graphics for the event. The display screen generally s= hows styled text, bullet points, charts and other graphic images, etc. > > Although a blind person can listen to the audio track, they will miss all= of the visual content. So, I've wondered what the prospects might be for = improving this situation. For example, it seems like it should be possible= for software to: > > - pull static images from the video stream > - recognize the region containing the display screen > - extract text and layout information > - convert this to HTML > - synchronize the HTML to the audio track > > Or, in this age of LLMs and such, perhaps the software could analyze the = visual content and be prepared to discuss it interactively. Might anyone = know of any work in this area and/or have thoughts about how such a facilit= y "should" work? > > -r > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to blinux-list+unsubscribe@redhat.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to blinux-list+unsubscribe@redhat.com.