From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx07.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wB60RHQJ009235 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:27:17 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id C9A271001F58; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx16.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.45]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFD8A1001F57 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl1-f193.google.com (mail-pl1-f193.google.com [209.85.214.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC25E3082A34 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2018 00:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f193.google.com with SMTP id t13so10856160ply.13 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:27:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=ok1oxuYsmcNNk8RTZPVVMBtOgJ2WJ3rfxJTTTdsPkRo=; b=W+CCj1WeL87UvRH0YHB4B86oQC4c9meOH0krydm61OJ1xgW1YU3ABB0uLwucLSs8vH 88IdiKEp2CVNUsWTE5Xt55Lq3x+LHyl3m24NTPqb+t0LefQjME3yROFIwd9nXVTTaQz0 2MmTAQdqQY1tCaGSVOc12sp98AnnkG+thp9+QwlSbHaal3ftNmcpfGfabS9PBHOeCOKM 6gRWDaG5cagHYX5JbXBbVpIyx856bvpbI6ZK4hsy4lGnquCtP5zsFaWci5JcIex9mb2f vjQ3ugipFPNQG/c9yWuO+FRvs3uDPUgrBtlvQ5bB2WW454RrX8r5dFteipaqy5eEUBqn 7BNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=ok1oxuYsmcNNk8RTZPVVMBtOgJ2WJ3rfxJTTTdsPkRo=; b=LU/gwtAub5fVu6/ETkiEWmiP91uD/3ic4D1ZW5l6eptNi3Pz7EYejlOB+3R/SEK7/g XZmPeAbkAU1UcBPNz/tg2a9+AweOHcXeixeMyROohiO5NDItTVoQIrXSU8dE5H9uwrsb NnNX5+6X8G3ukA+FDAKYrf1ewM59Mcbiopc3WXyrIDTYsJWKIxUKBB8kK3L7uLVnZW44 kt7tarY724h6mihiSzyT0lgoY84rW7GARCu+kPLFsW6csInF39hJKM0ZYvekhR2NvNj7 3qQL5aJ3tuwL8ZyPu4KrBfMBQXxlOK8HCNc/ofv4Nr8OvN4A6zY1kvaYFkIfuDKGFmgy oXpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWYYXMyNjPqxuD3DDvnMzO9f7gUJgnvxsG457J/PJyVHKsYuFVpT w2DmF2MZvOpcxYW0jj3I36GUMUHD X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/X72rBI/xhEIWaihBsNS3kqngaWYN03MRAOq+Q1cQLnnVcEHXjKOTk02W0iEtZazIspWfWzFA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e002:: with SMTP id ca2mr26630325plb.103.1544056033864; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.146] ([67.230.225.142]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 34sm30121009pgp.90.2018.12.05.16.27.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:27:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20181206.002711.603.4@[192.168.1.146]> To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Booting Linux with No Video card Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 18:27:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain In-Reply-To: <49cb37b3528c353c6c8fafea7d6c459c@ijn2.net> References: <20181205.212122.046.2@[192.168.1.146]> <10dcfffb1c7ce34509792847ceb7226d@ijn2.net> <20181205.223718.433.3@[192.168.1.146]> <49cb37b3528c353c6c8fafea7d6c459c@ijn2.net> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.45]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:27:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.45]); Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:27:14 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'209.85.214.193' DOMAIN:'mail-pl1-f193.google.com' HELO:'mail-pl1-f193.google.com' FROM:'captinlogic@gmail.com' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.13 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_PASS) 209.85.214.193 mail-pl1-f193.google.com 209.85.214.193 mail-pl1-f193.google.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.110.45 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com id wB60RHQJ009235 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:27:17 -0000 Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I have a feeling you haven't provided enough information for anyone to > help. Unfortunately it is quite normal on this list. > > Please try to tell exactly what you are trying to accomplish with what > exact hardware setup and scenario. Trying to install Debian on a new system. When I said, debian prompt, I was referring to the boot prompt observed when booting a USB stick or cd. This usually consists of the distribution name and optionally a prompt to type commands. The board does not have integrated video, at all. When the USB stick is plugged in (or boot cd inserted), the computer just sits there, doing nothing. Having observed similar behavior from another system, it was clear that video hardware is required. Immediately upon inserting a video card into the previous system, everything worked as normal. The reason I wrote was because subsequent to my previous experience, I found out that Linux could be fooled into thinking there was video hardware present when, in fact, there isn't. I knew it could be fooled into thinking there was a monitor present, but someone informed me that linux also did not necessarily need video hardware either. Unfortunately, the evidence he gave confirmed my own information; that is, editing xorg.conf to use xorg-video-dummy-x86 or similar. This is way ahead of where I am, as there is no xorg yet and we are still at trying to boot a linux USB stick or cd. I am using a braille display and, as previously stated, I saw no indication that the stick (or cd) had booted appear on the display. The computer just sat, humming to itself. I went ahead and ordered a cheap video PCI card, but I was curious to know if Linux could be fooled into running without it. It appears, however, that it can't. At least, not here. It was a generic question (can linux do this?) and not necessarily hardware specific.