Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
from within rc.local.

This script contains lines such as:

echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo


This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part 
of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 
Rudy Vener
Website: http://www.rudyvener.com

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
accessible to i3.

On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> from within rc.local.
>
> This script contains lines such as:
>
> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>
>
> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
> --
> Rudy Vener
> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hello, Didier here.

I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time

It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
the case for Firefox.

Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
busy doing other things.

Which distribution are you using? 
--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr


On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> accessible to i3.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>> from within rc.local.
>>
>> This script contains lines such as:
>>
>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>
>>
>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>> --
>> Rudy Vener
>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
> 
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Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

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I'm planning to run a Arch Linux install.

On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hello, Didier here.
>
> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>
> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> the case for Firefox.
>
> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> busy doing other things.
>
> Which distribution are you using?
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
>
>
> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>> accessible to i3.
>>
>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>> from within rc.local.
>>>
>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>
>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>
>>>
>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>> discussion
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rudy Vener
>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
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>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.

On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hello, Didier here.
>
> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>
> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> the case for Firefox.
>
> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> busy doing other things.
>
> Which distribution are you using?
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
>
>
> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>> accessible to i3.
>>
>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>> from within rc.local.
>>>
>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>
>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>
>>>
>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>> discussion
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rudy Vener
>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I would like to know the same thing.

> On Sep 10, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
> headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hello, Didier here.
>> 
>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>> 
>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>> the case for Firefox.
>> 
>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>> busy doing other things.
>> 
>> Which distribution are you using?
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>> accessible to i3.
>>> 
>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>> 
>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>> 
>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>> discussion
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

With speakup, would one need a hardware synthesizer?

> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> accessible to i3.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>> from within rc.local.
>> 
>> This script contains lines such as:
>> 
>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>> 
>> 
>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> 
>> --
>> Rudy Vener
>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Exactly what is a window manager?  Is that gnome, or mate?

> On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

In Arch it's in the AUR, named qt-at-spi (lower case letters).

To install a package from the AUR (Arch User repository)
read this article from the Arch Wiki:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository

I just installed mumble in Slint to check, it doen't seem accessible
at all. Skint shpis Qt4, maybe you'll have better results with
Arch that ships Qt5, I don't know.

If Peter Vagner reads this post, he could shed more light
as he is the packager of qt-at-spi for Arch.

Didier
--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr


On 9/10/18 11:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
> headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hello, Didier here.
>>
>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>
>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>> the case for Firefox.
>>
>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>> busy doing other things.
>>
>> Which distribution are you using?
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>> accessible to i3.
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>
>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>
>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>> discussion
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
> 
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Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

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Not at all, you can use the software synthesizer.

For your information, I attach the script that manages the
espeakup daemon in Slint. I assume that there is systemd
service doing something similar in Arch.

--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr

On 9/11/18 12:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> With speakup, would one need a hardware synthesizer?
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>> accessible to i3.
>>
>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>> from within rc.local.
>>>
>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>
>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>
>>>
>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rudy Vener
>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> 
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#!/bin/sh

# Create '/dev/(soft)synth' if not present
(cd /dev
if [ ! -c /dev/softsynth ]; then
	echo "Creating '/dev/softsynth'"
	mknod softsynth c 10 26
fi
if [ ! -c /dev/synth ]; then
	echo "Creating '/dev/synth'"
	mknod synth c 10 25
fi
)

# Load the software synthesizer
echo "soft" > /sys/accessibility/speakup/synth

sleep 1

# Permissions
chmod 666 /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/*
echo 1 > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/direct
[ "$LANG" = "" ] && . /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
if [ -f /etc/espeakup.conf ]; then
	. /etc/espeakup.conf
	[ ! "$rate" = "" ] && echo $rate > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/rate
	[ ! "$vol" = "" ] && echo $vol > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/vol
	[ ! "$pitch" = "" ] && echo $pitch > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/pitch
	if [ ! "$language" = "" ]; then
		setlanguage="$language"
	else
		setlanguage=${LANG%_*}
	fi
else
	setlanguage=${LANG%_*}
fi
# Starts/stops/restarts espeakup
espeakup_start() {
  if [ ! "`ps -C espeakup --noheaders|wc -l`" = "0" ]; then
    echo "espeakup is already started."
    espeakup_status
    exit
  fi
  if [ -x /usr/bin/espeakup ]; then
    echo "Starting espeakup"
    /usr/bin/espeakup -V $setlanguage
  else
    echo "/usr/bin/espeakup not found or non executable"
  fi
}


espeakup_stop() {
  NBPROC="`ps -C espeakup --noheaders|wc -l`"
  if [ ! "$NBPROC" = "0" ]; then
    echo "Stopping espeakup..."
    PID="`ps -C espeakup --noheaders -o pid`"
    kill $PID
    # Restore the defaults
    echo 2 > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/rate
    echo 5 > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/vol
    echo 5 > /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/pitch
  fi
}

espeakup_restart() {
    espeakup_stop
    sleep 2
    espeakup_start
}

espeakup_status() {
  NBPROC="`ps -C espeakup --noheaders|wc -l`"
  if [ "$NBPROC" = "0" ]; then
    echo "espeakup is not started" 
  elif [ "$NBPROC" = "1" ]; then
    echo "An espeakup daemon is running, PID: `ps -C espeakup --no-headers -o pid`"
  else
    ps -C espeakup -o pid,args
  fi
}

case "$1" in
    start)
	    espeakup_start;;
    stop)
		espeakup_stop;;
    restart)
		espeakup_restart;;
    status)
		espeakup_status;;
    *)
        echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|status}";;
esac

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Would I put this in /etc/speakup if I wanted to use it.

On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> Not at all, you can use the software synthesizer.
>
> For your information, I attach the script that manages the
> espeakup daemon in Slint. I assume that there is systemd
> service doing something similar in Arch.
>
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
>
> On 9/11/18 12:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> With speakup, would one need a hardware synthesizer?
>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>> <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>> accessible to i3.
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>
>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>
>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>> discussion
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

It was accesible in sonar so I will have to try it in arch sadly I
don't have access to my arch box because were moving and its in
storage. Also when using JACK if you could check will it brake orca?
If you have a skype I would try and contact you on there to talk about
more things with arch. And also try and rout audio through jack using
skype.

On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> In Arch it's in the AUR, named qt-at-spi (lower case letters).
>
> To install a package from the AUR (Arch User repository)
> read this article from the Arch Wiki:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository
>
> I just installed mumble in Slint to check, it doen't seem accessible
> at all. Skint shpis Qt4, maybe you'll have better results with
> Arch that ships Qt5, I don't know.
>
> If Peter Vagner reads this post, he could shed more light
> as he is the packager of qt-at-spi for Arch.
>
> Didier
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
>
>
> On 9/10/18 11:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
>> headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
>>
>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello, Didier here.
>>>
>>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>>
>>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>>> the case for Firefox.
>>>
>>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>>> busy doing other things.
>>>
>>> Which distribution are you using?
>>> --
>>> Didier Spaier
>>> Slint maintainer
>>> http://slint.fr
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>>> accessible to i3.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>>
>>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>>> discussion
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Mate or Gnome are desktops.

A desktop include several components, among which
a window manager whose task is to manage the windows on the
screen : create them, move them, resize them, lose them etc.

As an an example, by default MATE uses Marco as window manager,
but can also use compiz, Gnome now uses Mutter.

Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr

On 9/11/18 12:23 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Exactly what is a window manager?  Is that gnome, or mate?
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I can hardly answer, not being an Arch user.

However, in the list of files shipped in the espeakup
package for Arch:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/espeakup/
I see that there are files named:
/usr/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service
and also a configuration file:
/usr/lib/modules-load.d/espeakup.conf

I'd have a look at the latter.
--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr

On 9/11/18 12:49 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Would I put this in /etc/speakup if I wanted to use it.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Not at all, you can use the software synthesizer.
>>
>> For your information, I attach the script that manages the
>> espeakup daemon in Slint. I assume that there is systemd
>> service doing something similar in Arch.
>>
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>>
>> On 9/11/18 12:21 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> With speakup, would one need a hardware synthesizer?
>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>> <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>>> accessible to i3.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>>
>>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>>> discussion
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I have a skype account which is didier.spaier but am usually not
connected.

I never used JACK, maybe I will try, but that would be in
a few days.

Feel free to send me an email at this address

<my first name> at slint dot fr.

Didier
--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr

On 9/11/18 12:53 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> It was accesible in sonar so I will have to try it in arch sadly I
> don't have access to my arch box because were moving and its in
> storage. Also when using JACK if you could check will it brake orca?
> If you have a skype I would try and contact you on there to talk about
> more things with arch. And also try and rout audio through jack using
> skype.
> 
> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>> In Arch it's in the AUR, named qt-at-spi (lower case letters).
>>
>> To install a package from the AUR (Arch User repository)
>> read this article from the Arch Wiki:
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository
>>
>> I just installed mumble in Slint to check, it doen't seem accessible
>> at all. Skint shpis Qt4, maybe you'll have better results with
>> Arch that ships Qt5, I don't know.
>>
>> If Peter Vagner reads this post, he could shed more light
>> as he is the packager of qt-at-spi for Arch.
>>
>> Didier
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/18 11:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
>>> headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello, Didier here.
>>>>
>>>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>>>
>>>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>>>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>>>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>>>> the case for Firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>>>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>>>> busy doing other things.
>>>>
>>>> Which distribution are you using?
>>>> --
>>>> Didier Spaier
>>>> Slint maintainer
>>>> http://slint.fr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>>>> accessible to i3.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Hi,

Speakup settings are stored on your hard disk at
/sys/accessibility/speakup/. There are several ways to get values in
those files, of course.

I'm still using rc.local, so I just poke some values there.

Also, I login on the console, so Speakup starting via systemctl works
perfectly well for me. I launch my graphical environment via startx.

Just some thoughts for you. Good luck on the install!

Janina



Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

I haven't used i3. Looks interesting.

Wouldn't you just load it via ~/.xinitrc ?

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Hello, Didier here.
> 
> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
> 
> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> the case for Firefox.
> 
> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> busy doing other things.
> 
> Which distribution are you using? 
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
> 
> 
> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> > I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> > accessible to i3.
> > 
> > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> >> from within rc.local.
> >>
> >> This script contains lines such as:
> >>
> >> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> >> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> >> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> >> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> >> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> >> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
> >>
> >>
> >> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> >> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> >>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> >>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> >>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> >>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> >>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rudy Vener
> >> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

So, it's in the AUR. Is there something beyond installing the package
using some pacman frontend like pacaur or yaourt?

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> I would like to know the same thing.
> 
> > On Sep 10, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
> > headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
> > 
> > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> Hello, Didier here.
> >> 
> >> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
> >> 
> >> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> >> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> >> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> >> the case for Firefox.
> >> 
> >> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> >> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> >> busy doing other things.
> >> 
> >> Which distribution are you using?
> >> --
> >> Didier Spaier
> >> Slint maintainer
> >> http://slint.fr
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> >>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> >>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> >>> accessible to i3.
> >>> 
> >>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> >>>> from within rc.local.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This script contains lines such as:
> >>>> 
> >>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> >>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> >>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> >>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> >>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> >>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> >>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
> >>>> discussion
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> >>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> >>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> >>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> >>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> >>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> Rudy Vener
> >>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >> 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> With speakup, would one need a hardware synthesizer?

No. You can use espeak, including espeak-ng, though the latter may be
trickier to install. Once espeak is installed and functioning, you
install espeakup and enable it via systemd.

> 
> > On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> > I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> > accessible to i3.
> > 
> > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> >> from within rc.local.
> >> 
> >> This script contains lines such as:
> >> 
> >> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> >> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> >> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> >> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> >> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> >> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> >> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> >> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> >>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> >>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> >>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> >>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> >>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Blinux-list mailing list
> >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Rudy Vener
> >> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Blinux-list mailing list
> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> >> 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Blinux-list mailing list
> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

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I assume that yes according to this page:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinit#xinitrc

Caveat: I am still not an Arch user ;)

FYI in Slint I provide the small script session-chooser
to help setting the default user session, attached.

It sets .xinirc and several login managers. 

It works with i3, at least when using startx.

It uses a Python script user_xsession.py, also attached. 

Didier
--
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
http://slint.fr


On 9/11/18 6:39 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I haven't used i3. Looks interesting.
> 
> Wouldn't you just load it via ~/.xinitrc ?
> 
> Janina
> 
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> Hello, Didier here.
>>
>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>
>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>> the case for Firefox.
>>
>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>> busy doing other things.
>>
>> Which distribution are you using? 
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>> accessible to i3.
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>
>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>
>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> 

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#!/bin/sh
# This script sets the X session started with the startx command or
# with a display manager, unless the session be set from the display
# manager's greeter.
# Tested with xdm, lightdm, lxdm, kdm and gdm2
# Known issue: with some sessions xdm respawns
# The script user-xsession.py needs accountsservice and is shipped in
# the accountsservice package in Slint.
# Didier Spaier <didier~at~slint~dot~fr> 25 November 2017

if [ $(id -u) -eq 0 ]; then
	echo "Running a graphical session as root is not allowed."
	exit
fi
liste="$(ls /usr/share/xsessions/|sed s/.desktop//)"
listew=". $liste ."

usage() {
	echo "Usage: $0 <desktop session>"
	echo "Available desktop sessions:"
	echo "$liste"
	printf "The session is currently set for $USER to "
	user_xsession.py --user-name $USER get
exit
}
 
[ $# -ne 1 ] && usage

if [ "$(echo $1|tr [:lower:] [:upper:])" = "LXDE" ]; then
	thissession="LXDE"
else
	thissession=$(echo $1|tr [:upper:] [:lower:])
fi

if [ "$(echo $listew|grep " $thissession ")" = "" ]; then
	echo "\"$1\" not found among the available sessions"
	echo "$liste"
	printf "The current session is "
	user_xsession.py --user-name $USER get
	exit
fi

user_xsession.py --user-name $USER set $thissession

# This is for xdm
case $thissession in
	kde-plasma) session=/usr/bin/startkde;;
	kde-plasma-safe) session="/usr/bin/startkde --failsafe";;
	LXDE) session=/usr/bin/lxsession;;
	gnome) session=/usr/bin/gnome-session;;
	xfce) session=/usr/bin/startxfce4;;
	icewm) session=/usr/bin/icewm-session;;
	mate) session=/usr/bin/mate-session;;
	wmaker) session=/usr/bin/startwmaker;;
	e16) session=/usr/share/e16/misc/starte16;;
	enlightenment) session=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start;;
	blackbox) session=/usr/bin/startblackbox;;
	fluxbox) session=/usr/bin/startfluxbox;;
	twm) session=/usr/bin/starttwm;;
	awesome) session=/usr/bin/awesome;;
esac

echo $session > $HOME/.xsession

# This is for lxdm and gdm2.
echo '[Desktop]' > $HOME/.dmrc
echo "Session=$thissession" >> $HOME/.dmrc

xsession=$thissession
[ "$xsession" = "LXDE" ] && xsession=lxde
[ "$xsession" = "kde-plasma" ] && xsession=kde
[ "$xsession" = "kde-plasma-safe" ] && xsession=kde

# This is mostly for startx , borrowed from xwmconfig.
if [ -r /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.$xsession ]; then
  if [ -r $HOME/.xinitrc ]; then
    rm -f $HOME/.xinitrc-backup
    mv $HOME/.xinitrc $HOME/.xinitrc-backup
  fi
  cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.$xsession > $HOME/.xinitrc
fi

echo "A default session $thissession has been set for ${USER}."

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

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It seems only one attachment was transmitted to the list.

user_xsession.py is attached to this message. I have
renamed it user_xsession.py.txt, just in case some rule
forbids to send a file whose name ends in .exe, .bin,
whatever.

Didier

On 9/11/18 7:23 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> I assume that yes according to this page:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinit#xinitrc
> 
> Caveat: I am still not an Arch user ;)
> 
> FYI in Slint I provide the small script session-chooser
> to help setting the default user session, attached.
> 
> It sets .xinirc and several login managers. 
> 
> It works with i3, at least when using startx.
> 
> It uses a Python script user_xsession.py, also attached. 
> 
> Didier
> --
> Didier Spaier
> Slint maintainer
> http://slint.fr
> 
> 
> On 9/11/18 6:39 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> I haven't used i3. Looks interesting.
>>
>> Wouldn't you just load it via ~/.xinitrc ?
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>>> Hello, Didier here.
>>>
>>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>>
>>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>>> the case for Firefox.
>>>
>>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>>> busy doing other things.
>>>
>>> Which distribution are you using? 
>>> --
>>> Didier Spaier
>>> Slint maintainer
>>> http://slint.fr
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>>>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>>>> accessible to i3.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>>>>> from within rc.local.
>>>>>
>>>>> This script contains lines such as:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>>>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>>>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>>>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>>>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>>>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>>>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>>>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>>>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
>>>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>>>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>>>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>>>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rudy Vener
>>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Blinux-list mailing list
>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Yes check the arch linux wiki if your using a arch system.

On 9/11/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> I haven't used i3. Looks interesting.
>
> Wouldn't you just load it via ~/.xinitrc ?
>
> Janina
>
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
>> Hello, Didier here.
>>
>> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
>>
>> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
>> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
>> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
>> the case for Firefox.
>>
>> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
>> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
>> busy doing other things.
>>
>> Which distribution are you using?
>> --
>> Didier Spaier
>> Slint maintainer
>> http://slint.fr
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> > So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
>> > I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
>> > accessible to i3.
>> >
>> > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
>> >> from within rc.local.
>> >>
>> >> This script contains lines such as:
>> >>
>> >> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
>> >> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
>> >> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
>> >> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
>> >> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
>> >> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> >> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
>> >> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
>> >> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
>> >> discussion
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
>> >>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited
>> >>> on
>> >>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
>> >>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
>> >>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
>> >>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Rudy Vener
>> >> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Blinux-list mailing list
>> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Blinux-list mailing list
>> > Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka
>
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
>
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>

Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

yaourt is depricated, aurman is known to work.  I don't know pacaur's
status though.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:41:28
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm
>
> So, it's in the AUR. Is there something beyond installing the package
> using some pacman frontend like pacaur or yaourt?
>
> Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > I would like to know the same thing.
> >
> > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
> > > headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
> > >
> > > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >> Hello, Didier here.
> > >>
> > >> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
> > >>
> > >> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> > >> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> > >> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> > >> the case for Firefox.
> > >>
> > >> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> > >> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> > >> busy doing other things.
> > >>
> > >> Which distribution are you using?
> > >> --
> > >> Didier Spaier
> > >> Slint maintainer
> > >> http://slint.fr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > >>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> > >>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> > >>> accessible to i3.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> > >>>> from within rc.local.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This script contains lines such as:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> > >>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> > >>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> > >>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> > >>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> > >>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> > >>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> > >>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> > >>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
> > >>>> discussion
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> > >>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> > >>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> > >>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> > >>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> > >>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> > >>>>>
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Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Both pacaur and yaourt still work as of today, however. They're likely to work for months, if not years. aurman I don't know.

I've not seen a clear favorite replacement yet, but I'm just one person.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> yaourt is depricated, aurman is known to work.  I don't know pacaur's
> status though.
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion
> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:41:28
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: Accessible login prompt and i3 wm
> >
> > So, it's in the AUR. Is there something beyond installing the package
> > using some pacman frontend like pacaur or yaourt?
> >
> > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > I would like to know the same thing.
> > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would also love to know how to install QT-AT-SPI that was one of the
> > > > headaches I have to deal with because I want to use mumble.
> > > >
> > > > On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >> Hello, Didier here.
> > > >>
> > > >> I just checked on Slint, installing i3 for the first time
> > > >>
> > > >> It can be started with startx (in Slint, I just selected it
> > > >> typing session-chooser) and yes orca works with i3 as long
> > > >> as the apps you use are accessible. This is of course
> > > >> the case for Firefox.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only caveat: in Slint I had to type orca& from a terminal
> > > >> to get it started. I didn't investigate why (yet) as I am
> > > >> busy doing other things.
> > > >>
> > > >> Which distribution are you using?
> > > >> --
> > > >> Didier Spaier
> > > >> Slint maintainer
> > > >> http://slint.fr
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 9/10/18 9:44 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > >>> So how would I handle the login greater? Maybe I could just do it how
> > > >>> I do it login with speakup and start i3 with startx. But then is orca
> > > >>> accessible to i3.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 9/10/18, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>> I save my speakup settings by calling a script /bin/setspeakup
> > > >>>> from within rc.local.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This script contains lines such as:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> echo 6 > /speakup/soft/freq
> > > >>>> echo 7 > /speakup/soft/pitch
> > > >>>> echo 2 > /speakup/soft/vol
> > > >>>> echo 1 > /speakup/spell_delay
> > > >>>> echo 3 > /speakup/soft/rate
> > > >>>> echo 122     zee > /speakup/i18n/characters
> > > >>>> echo 90     ZEE > /speakup/i18n/characters
> > > >>>> chmod 666 /speakup/key_echo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This gives me the slow default speakup voice during the initial part
> > > >>>> of the boot process, but changes to my preferred voice near the end.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:02:53PM -0400, Linux for blind general
> > > >>>> discussion
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> Hello I want to install arch on my laptop. I would like to use a
> > > >>>>> window manager rather than a full blown desktop because I'm limited on
> > > >>>>> space. I would also like to setup a accessible login prompt. I would
> > > >>>>> like to try my hand at i3. I tryed ratpoison and I could never get
> > > >>>>> firefox-esr sound to work. Also how do you save speakup settings
> > > >>>>> between reboots. It always resets my speech rate when using speakup.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > > >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list
> > > >>>>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> > > >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Rudy Vener
> > > >>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > > >>>>
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Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa