audio disk ripping

audio disk ripping

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What is a good program for ripping audio disks?

Re: audio disk ripping

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Didier here.

asunder, however I'm not sure of its accessibility level.

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Re: audio disk ripping

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Why not try abcde?
Chime

Re: audio disk ripping

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abcde has been my go to for years.

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Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
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Re: audio disk ripping

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Tim here. There's a great tutorial on using "cdparanoia" to convert
them to lossless .wav files, then either "lame" to convert those to
MP3 or "oggenc" to convert them to OGG format:

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ripping-and-encoding-audio-files/

It also mentions using "ripperx" or "k3b" in a GUI, but I've not
tried either of those.

There's also "abcde" which you can read about at

http://www.andrews-corner.org/linux/abcde/index.html

which also seems to have CDDB integration for getting track
listings.  If you need more details, my sweet-heart has been hinting
that she'd like me to reduce several shelves of CDs down to just
those for which I want the liner-notes, ripping the rest.  So I can
do some experimenting if needed while pleasing her too. (grins)

-tim

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Re: audio disk ripping

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I'll add that in console mode there is cdparanoia.

FWIW both asunder and cdparanoia are shipped in Slint.

A assume that they should be easy to install in other distributions.

I just found another command line tool: abcde.

To install it on Slint type as root:
slapt-get -i cd-discid
slapt-get -i abcde

abcde has a man page.

Didier


On 09/05/2018 04:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Didier here.
> 
> asunder, however I'm not sure of its accessibility level.
> 
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Re: audio disk ripping

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Well Jeff-and-Tim: Many years ago we had abcde setup so you type abcde   see a 
list of tracks, then type abcde followed by track numbers. Wonder if you both 
can please inform how to set that up again. Thanks in advance
Chime

Re: audio disk ripping

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Thank you.

I went in terminal,

typed

dnf install abcde

and then exited terminal.

When I went in to applications, I did not find this program.

Is it a command line program?


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Re: audio disk ripping

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Yeah, abcde is command line. If I'm not mistaken, it's actually a perl
script that lets you query CDDB with Musicbrains, rip the disc with
cdparanoia, and encode the resulting wav files with your choice of
encoder in a single command.

I don't know all of its features, but I usually run it with the command

abcde -xo flac

Which query's CDDB, prints the CDDB matches to the screen and prompts
the user to select from among the matches, rips each track to a file,
encodes to flac naming and tagging based on the CDDB data, and ejects
the disc when done. If you just type abcde at the command line, it'll
do the same except it'll use the default encoder(not sure if the
default is LAME, Ogg, or to leave the rips as uncompressed wav files)
and won't eject the disc.

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.

Re: audio disk ripping

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Yes, it is a great program.
You can run it from the command line by typing abcde and pressing enter in 
a terminal.
Regards, Willem


On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Thank you.
>
> I went in terminal,
>
> typed
>
> dnf install abcde
>
> and then exited terminal.
>
> When I went in to applications, I did not find this program.
>
> Is it a command line program?
>
>
> On 09/05/2018 09:42 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Why not try abcde?
>> Chime
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Re: audio disk ripping

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Hi,
abcde does cddb lookups and uses cdparanoia in the back.
One can set the output format in its config file, either keeping the wav 
files also or just the compressed format of your choice.
You can as I recall set that to flac, mp3 or ogg.
Regards, Willem


On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Tim here. There's a great tutorial on using "cdparanoia" to convert
> them to lossless .wav files, then either "lame" to convert those to
> MP3 or "oggenc" to convert them to OGG format:
>
> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ripping-and-encoding-audio-files/
>
> It also mentions using "ripperx" or "k3b" in a GUI, but I've not
> tried either of those.
>
> There's also "abcde" which you can read about at
>
> http://www.andrews-corner.org/linux/abcde/index.html
>
> which also seems to have CDDB integration for getting track
> listings.  If you need more details, my sweet-heart has been hinting
> that she'd like me to reduce several shelves of CDs down to just
> those for which I want the liner-notes, ripping the rest.  So I can
> do some experimenting if needed while pleasing her too. (grins)
>
> -tim
>
> On September  5, 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> What is a good program for ripping audio disks?
>>
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Re: audio disk ripping

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Hi!
Anders here.
Asunder works quite well from what i have found out.
There are tons of tools for this purpose though.
I used a command line tool which actually slipped out of my mind but it was kind of the best i’ve tried out there.
/A

> 5 sep. 2018 kl. 16:36 skrev Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> Didier here.
> 
> asunder, however I'm not sure of its accessibility level.
> 
> On 09/05/2018 04:27 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
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Re: audio disk ripping

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Hi!
That was the cli tool i lost the name of.
Yes its a very very good tool.
/A

> 5 sep. 2018 kl. 16:46 skrev Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> 
> abcde has been my go to for years.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jeffery Wright
> Bachelor of Computer Science
> President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.
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Re: audio disk ripping

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> What is a good program for ripping audio disks?


I use abcde

Please note that's not a word, as any screen reader speech may try to
make it. It's the first 5 letters of the English alphabet.

Janina

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The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: audio disk ripping

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That's still how abcde works. Whether or not you get meaningful titles
for each track depends on whether the particular audio cd has an entry
in the on line database, usually cddb, though you can designate others.

I've found that cddb won't have everything Itunes will have, for
example. If the abcde database search comes up empty, you're on your own
to work it out from there.

Setup for abcde is controlled in the relevant abcde.conf file under
/etc. There's good documentation in the comments of that file. You might
want to study those.

Janina

Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Well Jeff-and-Tim: Many years ago we had abcde setup so you type abcde   see
> a list of tracks, then type abcde followed by track numbers. Wonder if you
> both can please inform how to set that up again. Thanks in advance
> Chime
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Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Re: audio disk ripping

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Tim here again.  Following up on my previous response, using "abcde"
from the command-line could hardly be easier.  I edited my
~/.abcde.conf file to contain

 CDDBMETHOD=cddb,musicbrainz
 OUTPUTTYPE=mp3
 MAXPROCS=2
 EJECTCD=y

The CDDBMETHOD checks both "CDDB" and "MusicBrainz" for the track
info.  If the first fails to find the CD, it falls back to the
latter.  It still gives you the opportunity to pull up the
information in your $EDITOR to tweak the information which is nice.

The OUTPUTTYPE says I want MP3 rather than the default OGG.  You can
set it to a comma-separated list of extensions to produce more than
one.  YMMV, but I have some players that know MP3 and not OGG, and
now that MP3 is out of patent restriction, I'm good with MP3 for most
stuff.

The "MAXPROCS" is the number of CPUs in my machine to speed things
up.  It defaults to one, so a multi-core/multi-processor system
should be fine, but you can bump it up to the number of cores/CPUs
you have if you value speed.

Finally, I like the EJECTCD=y to eject the CD when it's done reading
the data off as an audible "I'm about done" making it easy for me to
load my next CD.

There are a *lot* of other options you can configure in that file.
You should be able to

  cp /etc/abcde.conf ~/.abcde.conf

and then modify it if you want to explore any of the other options,
but those worked for me.  I've ripped about half my classical music
selection since yesterday and hope to finish the rest today.

-tim

Re: audio disk ripping

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In addition to being on your own for naming and tagging files if abcde
doesn't find a CDDB entry(It's default to using Track followed by the
track number for titles and Unknown Artist Unknown Album for Artist
and Album), my experience ripping Japanese and Chinese music CDs is
that often none of the CDDB entries will be Romanized, and I would
assume the same holds for music in other languages that don't use the
Roman Alphabet, which can be an issue for sighted users given how many
terminal emulators don't support unicode and most graphical
applications need foreign fonts installed to properly display unicode,
but can be made worse with  many screen readers not knowing how to
read non-Roman text properly.

Also, having used abcde to rip Audiobooks, I think it worth noting
many Books-on-CD don't split the content to one chapter per track,
will sometimes split a chapter across disc boundaries even when none
of the chapters are long enough to mandate such, and if abcde has the
capability to selectively merge tracks or to resume numbering from
where a previous disc left off, I don't know how to access such
options. I've run into similar issues ripping AudioCD releases of
Radio Dramas. So, if you're only ripping music, abcde will usually
take you from CD to files ready to be loaded on your digital media
player of choice, but other kinds of audio programming are likely to
mandate more post-processing.

-- 
Sincerely,

Jeffery Wright
Bachelor of Computer Science
President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa.