From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) by lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w1SGN8cl023147 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:23:09 -0500 Received: by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) id ED25D5F718; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx06.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E756E5F71D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [66.228.34.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 944F82812C for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by rednote.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1SGN0vS026722 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:00 GMT DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 rednote.net w1SGN0vS026722 Authentication-Results: rednote.net; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=rednote.net Authentication-Results: rednote.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=janina@rednote.net DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 rednote.net w1SGN0vS026722 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=rednote.net; s=default; t=1519834980; bh=+3d9tAFKUgOYIKTchZ2zqkKt33c4wtcdoKXbMBvubrE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jm/ltZMJweSc25pjKvhctzb9c6wvAh9IbTeJO1Ha5AaO8tnRyALhqlznyG+EClwnc KQIceSzuHqYE5QEwAPnW23Lv5qd/zFguCk8UD64AI395NLp1PJop/emoRmR5BcvZUx SpzuXGv1jsjoX2fjYTq44Y5FHv9NIG2aqR4SimX8= Received: (from janina@localhost) by rednote.net (8.15.2/8.14.6/Submit) id w1SGN02e026721 for blinux-list@redhat.com; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:23:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:23:00 -0500 To: Linux for blind general discussion Subject: Re: Screen reader advice for a Linux sysadmin Message-ID: <20180228162300.GC5162@rednote.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 4.14.17-x86_64-linode99 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, ACL 227 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]); Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]); Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) for IP:'66.228.34.147' DOMAIN:'opera.rednote.net' HELO:'rednote.net' FROM:'janina@rednote.net' RCPT:'' X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -0.112 (DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD) 66.228.34.147 opera.rednote.net 66.228.34.147 opera.rednote.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 on 10.5.110.30 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 X-loop: blinux-list@redhat.com From: Linux for blind general discussion X-BeenThere: blinux-list@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: junk Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com List-Id: Linux for blind general discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:23:09 -0000 I agree with the below, though I've also been reasonably happy with the Linux bash shells provided by Windows 10. Janina Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Why not just ssh into your Linux servers from a Linux terminal? Its ssh > capability is far better than anything you can get from a Windows app using > their lackluster screen readers. > > Java apps use the java-atk-bridge to work with Orca, but that's only if you > require graphical tools. If not, you can do that from a text terminal as > well. That just leaves the Windows servers, and I personally would avoid > those like the plague, especially in a business environment. I can't > recommend anything good for accessing such things. > > Really though, Linux has some of the best accessibility tools around for > sysadmin tasks, so do give it a shot. If you find NVDA usable, you'll LOVE > Orca, as it deals with flat review of the screen rather than NVDA's > constructed object navigation, which is foreign even to a power user like > me. > Imetumwa kutoka kompyuta yangu > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa